Dog1 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 In order to get the same shine as can sprayed , can one add clear to the paint and diluent and airbrush to get the same result ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 No Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I occasionally do this by mixing Tamiya flat acrylics and their X-22 clear (around 1:1, or a little heavier on the paint). Then thin the mix with X-20A. This gives a slight sheen to an otherwise pretty flat finish. I wouldn't try to turn a flat paint into gloss this way, but is ok for a slight sheen. My main concern with heavier and thicker applications would be the different curing and shrinkage rates of the paint vs clear. It can cause cracks in the final finish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dog1 Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 Hello My objective is to find out if you can get exactly the same result using a can spray for color X example yellow by airbrushing the same color gloss bottle by adding clear to make it as gloss as the TS spray " i tried Tamiya TS yellow and Tamiya LP8 yellow lacquer and it was not the same yet at the store i was told the lacquer color equivalent to TS range should be the same . . Another question is by decaning a color and using the color through the airbrush will it give exactly the same color result and is this action the objective for small touch ups ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Color match vs sheen match are two different things. The easiest way to do what you are trying to do is to decant the can and airbrush it. Only then should you expect what you spray through the airbrush to match what is in the can. Anything else has many parameters that would be hard to dial in unless you did endless trial and error. The context matters too. If you have a large area of already painted yellow (can), I can see blending in a different yellow (LP) by spraying more broadly beyond the target area and later clear coating to brig everything to the same sheen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dog1 Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) So its decant , wait 1 day for the prop to evaporate , airbrush , clear . i find cans to be ruthless even at a distance and in movement , for large areas it can overspray and run creating large deposits at corners . I find myself wasting a lot of spray as well . What i like about cans is that strong uniform gloss finish to the major surface . Edited October 12, 2021 by Dog1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 No you cant just add a clear gloss paint to a matt paint and have it come out with the same glossy finish as you would expect to get if you spray the gloss coat over the colour coat. Ive never bothered to decant spray paint from a spray can so I can comment on that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kozlok Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) If you want to get ultra-glossy finish from your airbrush, after getting down your color coats, try a few finish coats with very high amount of thinner, and wet sand with very smooth grit sanding pads between. Obviously use gloss paint as well... Edited October 13, 2021 by kozlok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southwestforests Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 10:49 AM, Dog1 said: ... can one add clear to the paint ... Add enough clear and you'll turn your paint in to a glaze. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dog1 Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 Quote If you want to get ultra-glossy finish from your airbrush, after getting down your color coats, try a few finish coats with very high amount of thinner, and wet sand with very smooth grit sanding pads between. how many coats of thinned clear and which grade sanding paper , by very fine you mean 4000 to 10000 ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CF104 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Dog1 said: how many coats of thinned clear and which grade sanding paper , by very fine you mean 4000 to 10000 ? Wet sanding with 2000 grit should do the job. Going above that has limited returns for scale models. Cheers, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mlicari Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 No, you can't turn flat paint into gloss by adding clear gloss, and you can't turn gloss paint into flat by adding clear flat. Now, I *do* like to use a 50-50 (or so) mixture of clear and paint to modulate the color a bit of a monotone paint scheme. For example, an olive drab P-40 is pretty boring if you don't do something to the finish, so I'll take a bit of a lighter color OD than what I used for the base color, mix it with clear, and spray it on select locations of the model to produce slight-but-noticeable variations in the finish. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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