ChesshireCat Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, ElectroSoldier said: That is exactly my point too. neither side is right, and its Ukrainians who will end up paying for it. you all don't really get it! It's not those screw ball old men that will suffer in this, it's every mother's son and grand kid. If you come out of this without a scratch, it will still be eating at you thirty years later. Nobody will come out in great condition. Even those Mothers at home will suffer (all sides). I have two grandsons over there right now (one is in eastern Poland and we have no idea where the younger one is). At least both have been in the game of mortal combat at least once, but this ain't good. This will be Dylan's third combat tour, and ready to be over it right now. The other is a newbie with just one combat hash mark. going ask all of you to pray for PEACE! gary Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 If your son is in easter Poland, so it probably is near Zamość. People make there warm welcome to american soldiers. Link to post Share on other sites
okthree Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Petarvu said: Well you could say the same for USA kits then... There are kits still made in the USA? Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, okthree said: There are kits still made in the USA? Apart from the cottage industry no. AMT Ertl, Monogram etc all packed up long ago. There is no industry there to save anymore. Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D. Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, okthree said: There are kits still made in the USA? Atlantis still produces all of their kits in the USA. Polar lights/round 2 also produce some of their kits in the USA (usually repops of older kits, all new stuff comes out of China) Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 No wonder britmodeller.com is a more popular forum Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 11 hours ago, Jeffrey said: No wonder britmodeller.com is a more popular forum Amen! Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, ChesshireCat said: you all don't really get it! It's not those screw ball old men that will suffer in this, it's every mother's son and grand kid. If you come out of this without a scratch, it will still be eating at you thirty years later. Nobody will come out in great condition. Even those Mothers at home will suffer (all sides). I have two grandsons over there right now (one is in eastern Poland and we have no idea where the younger one is). At least both have been in the game of mortal combat at least once, but this ain't good. This will be Dylan's third combat tour, and ready to be over it right now. The other is a newbie with just one combat hash mark. going ask all of you to pray for PEACE! gary They enlisted, did they not? So going into harms way wherever that may be and whether or not you agree with it, is the chance THEY made when they took the oath. Or reupped again. We can't pick the most popular conflicts to attend. Now, how about we go back to talking plastic airplanes. Or you take it to a PM between you. Edited February 25, 2022 by ST0RM Link to post Share on other sites
dinozavr Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 3:01 PM, ijozic said: Yup, not buying anything Russian while the current regime stays in charge there and benefits from it. There is one phrase that is attributed to the Nazi criminal Goebbels, coined in the second half of World War 2: "Tell the truth, only the truth, but not the whole truth." The media tells you only part of the truth and carefully hides the other part, which completely changes the meaning of the first. I am absolutely sure that you do not know the whole truth about all the events in Ukraine that have taken place over these eight years. So there is no point in thoughtlessly waving these slogans that are as loud as they are frankly stupid here. Better focus on your hobby Link to post Share on other sites
sakai Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, dinozavr said: There is one phrase that is attributed to the Nazi criminal Goebbels, coined in the second half of World War 2: "Tell the truth, only the truth, but not the whole truth." The media tells you only part of the truth and carefully hides the other part, which completely changes the meaning of the first. I am absolutely sure that you do not know the whole truth about all the events in Ukraine that have taken place over these eight years. So there is no point in thoughtlessly waving these slogans that are as loud as they are frankly stupid here. Better focus on your hobby Bravo!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 Russian troll. Link to post Share on other sites
dinozavr Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Solo said: Russian troll. When there are no arguments, insults begin Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) You support bandit country which invaded and attacked innocent Ukraine. Exactly like Hitler invaded and attacked Poland. Hitler also accused Poland of assault on german radio station at Gliwice. The history is a b***ch... That is argument. Edited February 25, 2022 by Solo Link to post Share on other sites
joscasle Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 22 hours ago, ChesshireCat said: you all don't really get it! It's not those screw ball old men that will suffer in this, it's every mother's son and grand kid. If you come out of this without a scratch, it will still be eating at you thirty years later. Nobody will come out in great condition. Even those Mothers at home will suffer (all sides). I have two grandsons over there right now (one is in eastern Poland and we have no idea where the younger one is). At least both have been in the game of mortal combat at least once, but this ain't good. This will be Dylan's third combat tour, and ready to be over it right now. The other is a newbie with just one combat hash mark. going ask all of you to pray for PEACE! gary 🙏🙏 Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 23 hours ago, drake122 said: Seriously? All of this is just unnecessary loss of life and something that shouldn't happen in the 21st century and you people here argue about which side is right and which one is wrong? This is a modeling forum, about a hobby that people enjoy because it lets them forget about every day life and problems and conflicts like this. So stay on topic or frack off please... in the game of mortal combat each side is right in their eyes. Yet thirty minutes after it's all said and done; no side is exactly right. I think it's time for a fast trip to the good old woodshed for a good whipping gary Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 23 hours ago, Solo said: If your son is in easter Poland, so it probably is near Zamość. People make there warm welcome to american soldiers. he's with the 75th Rangers (unless he got traded off). His first tour was in Afghanistan attached to the 502nd infantry (75th didn't have an open slot). He came home an E5 Sargent with two Bronze Stars. The second tour was in Iraq with the 75th, and he said it was pretty much house to house on a daily basis. He made E6 on his return with two more Bronze Stars. The younger boy just got out of Ranger school when they sent him to the 10th Mountain (once again no opening and they wouldn't take him anyway). Now he went with those un-named folks out of the 18th Airborne Corp. He already has a combat tour in Afghanistan with a Special Op's unit. I know he applied for Special Forces, but he'd still be in training had they took him. I watch his Mother turn grey and perhaps some of those political hacks in D.C. need to set in front of the TV with her! At least she now knows the game plan, and what to send in "care packages". I had to set down and have a long talk on what to send and what to forget about. As for being comfortable in Poland; let me explain this: He's from a very warm part of the United States (Texas), and thought he was going to freeze to death in upstate New York<g>!! He's tough (older brothers still call him a whimp), and he'll adjust. gary Link to post Share on other sites
dinozavr Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Solo said: You support bandit country which invaded and attacked innocent Ukraine. Exactly like Hitler invaded and attacked Poland. Hitler also accused Poland of assault on german radio station at Gliwice. The history is a b***ch... That is argument. I sympathize with you... and pity you. Bringing newspaper headlines as an argument is somehow frivolous. If we trace the entire chain of events in Ukraine since 2014, then over the past eight years, Ukraine has become very far from innocent. And if you are talking about Hitler's provocation before the attack on Poland, then you first need to study at least a little all the history of European diplomacy from 1933 to 1939, and not refer exclusively to the non-aggression pact between the USSR and Germany. Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Solo said: You support bandit country which invaded and attacked innocent Ukraine. Exactly like Hitler invaded and attacked Poland. Hitler also accused Poland of assault on german radio station at Gliwice. The history is a b***ch... That is argument. Ukraine was always divided. Anybody who thinks otherwise really doesnt know the situation there nor the makeup of its people. In the last election there were 45 million people in the country, of those 29 million who were allowed to vote, of those 9 million voted in the current president. Going on that basis if you get 5 people in a room then only 1 of them voted in the current president. Unless they are all from the western regions in which case all will have been able to vote and would vote him in, while the eastern regions none would have voted if they had been allowed to vote at all of course. Russia is playing for a very spercific outcome in this now and there is nothing the western powers can do about it because as we have seen in the last few days they are not willing to actually act, only apply sanctions, which wont stop action on the ground. And the end result will be elections in Ukraine in which all the people are allowed to vote. Did you know that a large portion of the people who live there can only speak in Russian? Did you know the psudo government that took over after the EuroMaiden riots changed the laws to make it illegal to speak anything other than Ukrainian in public, and mandatory to do things like request voting forms in Ukrainian? Open elections according to the laws of the land, but those laws mean the voters feel themselves unable to vote are not open elections. Innocent... Of what? Edited February 26, 2022 by ElectroSoldier Link to post Share on other sites
bobjohnston Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Good to see some one tell the truth and not repeat what they see in the mainstream media which is nothing but lies and propaganda. Now the SU-25 looks really nice and I cant wait to grab one when they released, been waiting a long time for it. Cheers. 1 hour ago, ElectroSoldier said: Ukraine was always divided. Anybody who thinks otherwise really doesnt know the situation there nor the makeup of its people. In the last election there were 45 million people in the country, of those 29 million who were allowed to vote, of those 9 million voted in the current president. Going on that basis if you get 5 people in a room then only 1 of them voted in the current president. Unless they are all from the western regions in which case all will have been able to vote and would vote him in, while the eastern regions none would have voted if they had been allowed to vote at all of course. Russia is playing for a very spercific outcome in this now and there is nothing the western powers can do about it because as we have seen in the last few days they are not willing to actually act, only apply sanctions, which wont stop action on the ground. And the end result will be elections in Ukraine in which all the people are allowed to vote. Did you know that a large portion of the people who live there can only speak in Russian? Did you know the psudo government that took over after the EuroMaiden riots changed the laws to make it illegal to speak anything other than Ukrainian in public, and mandatory to do things like request voting forms in Ukrainian? Open elections according to the laws of the land, but those laws mean the voters feel themselves unable to vote are not open elections. Innocent... Of what? Link to post Share on other sites
dinozavr Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 43 minutes ago, Solo said: Hard to believe how many russian troll are here. You defend Putin, the war criminal. And Russia, the worst country in the world, crime country. It is sad to look at a person who immediately closes his eyes, plugs his ears and screams hysterically when he begins to hear and see the second part of the truth, hidden from him before. Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan Hothersall Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I will continue to buy Zvezda kits as the people who work there, making up the boxes, printing the decals and working the injection molding machinery have nothing to do with what’s going on in Ukraine, they are ordinary Russians doing their job. The ‘I won’t buy anything Russian’ attitude will affect them more than the oligarchs. Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 54 minutes ago, dinozavr said: It is sad to look at a person who immediately closes his eyes, plugs his ears and screams hysterically when he begins to hear and see the second part of the truth, hidden from him before. Link to post Share on other sites
dinozavr Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) I have seen these photos. I don’t know what kind of rocket it is and where it came from, if it was a special shelling or an accidental hit in a residential building. And I also saw the results of the deliberate destruction of Eastern Ukraine by the Ukrainian rulers and the Ukrainian army for 8 years since 2014 More photoes on https://www.google.com/search?q=разрушения+в+донбассе&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiv5OjbhZ32AhUpRkEAHZ6-AeEQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=разрушения+в+донбассе&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQDDoHCCMQ7wMQJ1C5DFi5DGDf5RtoAHAAeACAAZACiAHkApIBBTEuMC4xmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=YvEZYq-rEqmMhbIPnv2GiA4&bih=628&biw=1413&client=firefox-b-d Edited February 26, 2022 by dinozavr Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 Do not feed russian troll. Link to post Share on other sites
Teeradej Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 I will buy any Zvezda kit I want just as I bought many ICM kits. My hobby has nothing to do with the situation. Link to post Share on other sites
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