mrvark Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 On 11/4/2022 at 7:40 AM, ijozic said: What exactly are the differences between them? From the photos, it would seem that both 'early' and 'late' cockpits have Pave Tack VID screens so the 'late' one might be the Pacer Strike modification with MFDs? I'm confused as well--am trying to get them to use more specific terminology. To me, there were three 'F' cockpits: pre-PAVE Tack, PAVE Tack, and Pacer Strike. All of their sprues include the VID and the instructions don't show what are on the cockpit decals. If I find out, I'll post something here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Beck Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Received the late F model cockpit today. It does have the Pacer Strike MFD's on the instrument panel decals. I also picked up three of the ladders and they are absolutely beautiful!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Pete Beck said: Received the late F model cockpit today. It does have the Pacer Strike MFD's on the instrument panel decals. I also picked up three of the ladders and they are absolutely beautiful!!! Thanks for clearing that up. Each ladder set contains two ladders, right (i.e. one for the pilot, one for the WSO)? I guess I'm waiting for their intake and wheel bay sets next. BTW, not sure if it was posted already, there's a nice video review of one of the cockpit sets (D/E) here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Beck Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Yes...two ladders per set. Waiting on all the other goodies also. I'm hoping that they include the Pave Tack pod/cradle when they release the bomb bay sets. I've never been able to find detailed photos of this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith T Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Pete Beck said: Yes...two ladders per set. Waiting on all the other goodies also. I'm hoping that they include the Pave Tack pod/cradle when they release the bomb bay sets. I've never been able to find detailed photos of this. Have they announced a weapons bay set ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Specter1075 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I heard on the Models for Ukraine podcast that they sold 2000 cockpit sets since they were released. They made a ton of money from them, and I'd have to think other F-111 sets would be a high priority for them. All I've seen is that more is coming, not what specifically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrvark Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Pretty sure a weapon bay (and PAVE Tack) is in the works, but not sure how quickly. BTW, since the "Late F-111F" is the Pacer Strike variant, be sure to use the GPS antenna that goes in front of the cockpit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Beck Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Here's the stuff they announced they were working on back in August: F-111 "Aardvark" development plan 2022/23 F-111 BRU-3A Bomb Rack Units F-111 Pylons F-111 Triple Plow I Air Intakes F-111 Triple Plow II Air Intakes F-111 Wheel bay with landing gear F-111 Bomb bay F-111 Front electronic bay Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arnobiz Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I got a bit lost on the reviews regarding the F-111 cockpit module: Did they or did they not correct the HB canopy shape issue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, arnobiz said: I got a bit lost on the reviews regarding the F-111 cockpit module: Did they or did they not correct the HB canopy shape issue? Sort of, IIRC. I think they improved it, but don’t think it was completely fixed because there were some limitations based on keeping the dimensions within the “box” of the kit escape capsule area. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 4:21 AM, Pete Beck said: Here's the stuff they announced they were working on back in August: F-111 "Aardvark" development plan 2022/23 F-111 BRU-3A Bomb Rack Units F-111 Pylons F-111 Triple Plow I Air Intakes F-111 Triple Plow II Air Intakes F-111 Wheel bay with landing gear F-111 Bomb bay F-111 Front electronic bay Where as what we really need is corrected wing flaps and the external bomb bay pylon for the pave tack pod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrvark Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 16 hours ago, arnobiz said: I got a bit lost on the reviews regarding the F-111 cockpit module: Did they or did they not correct the HB canopy shape issue? Neither canopy is correct, but Academy's is less incorrect. Without redoing the whole front fuselage, ResKit had to make their canopy fit the Hobby Boss kit. Attached are two pics, one of the measurements of the actual cockpit taken by Keith Sullivan and one of the Academy canopy on the ResKit capsule designed to fit the too- wide Hobby Boss fuselage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 So they make 2 of the 3 cockpits? They dont make the early version that didnt have the Pave tack modifications? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jon Krol Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 It might be nice if they made a F-111B correction set for the HB kit. I'd buy that. I'm a USN aircraft kind of guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piker38 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, Jon Krol said: It might be nice if they made a F-111B correction set for the HB kit. I'd buy that. I'm a USN aircraft kind of guy. You, me... and quite a lot of other people, too ! K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B2Blain Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 I recently spent over $60 to buy the Reskit cockpit for the HB F-111. I was surprised that that the cockpit is 3D printed now. After an inquiry with Reskit they said that the resin cockpit had consistency issues. Well, the 3D printed one is not much better. It appears that while "some" of the resin cockpit seemed to have a good fit, based on reviews, the 3D printed one does not. The cockpit is a little too narrow. I had to adjust the width of the front fuselage and also the nose gear well. There is also a gap at the front join. It took a while to sand, rescribe, and fill the joins with CA and putty. Now I am ready to attach the front canopy. It is too wide, as has been depicted in a number of reviews. I sanded off as much as I can, but will need to make it more narrow by squeezing it slightly while I glue. Anyone have any suggestions? I don't think a clamp will work on the irregular surface. The only think I can think of is gluing a strip of plastic to hold the canopy in and then removing and sanding off the glue? Is CA glue the best option? Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bozothenutter Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 8/13/2024 at 3:52 AM, B2Blain said: I recently spent over $60 to buy the Reskit cockpit for the HB F-111. I was surprised that that the cockpit is 3D printed now. After an inquiry with Reskit they said that the resin cockpit had consistency issues. Well, the 3D printed one is not much better. It appears that while "some" of the resin cockpit seemed to have a good fit, based on reviews, the 3D printed one does not. The cockpit is a little too narrow. I had to adjust the width of the front fuselage and also the nose gear well. There is also a gap at the front join. It took a while to sand, rescribe, and fill the joins with CA and putty. Now I am ready to attach the front canopy. It is too wide, as has been depicted in a number of reviews. I sanded off as much as I can, but will need to make it more narrow by squeezing it slightly while I glue. Anyone have any suggestions? I don't think a clamp will work on the irregular surface. The only think I can think of is gluing a strip of plastic to hold the canopy in and then removing and sanding off the glue? Is CA glue the best option? Thanks! Same here, the fit is terrible, and has me jumping through hoops trying to get a good fit. Part of the problem as i see it, is the solid front of the capsule. I have been in contact with them, and while the acknowledge there 'were' problems, and they 'are'trying to eliminate them, they were non-committal of any form of fix. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor01 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I bought all the resin additions from Res-kit, Black Dog, etc. and built the HB kit after they became available. Yes, I had to make some adjustments here and there but on any model that you cut up to alter the mold there is going to be a mismatch that will need to be dealt with. That is how you learn the skills to do this type of modeling. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alternative 4 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 That is a nice looking model. Way back when I built my Hobby Boss F-111G I had to use a spacer to widen the fuselage to make the kit cockpit fit properly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longmc Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 So, am I reading this correctly? The Reskit cockpits are not corrections for the shape issues, they're just detailed cockpits? thanks, Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bozothenutter Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 14 hours ago, longmc said: So, am I reading this correctly? The Reskit cockpits are not corrections for the shape issues, they're just detailed cockpits? thanks, Mike no, they are detailed cockpits, and they come with new, injection moulded canopies, correcting most of the issues. So the windscreen now has no arc in it, but it still is too wide at the front. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longmc Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 4 hours ago, Bozothenutter said: no, they are detailed cockpits, and they come with new, injection moulded canopies, correcting most of the issues. So the windscreen now has no arc in it, but it still is too wide at the front. If it fixes the overall bug-eye look of the original, I can live with it being too wide, I guess. thanks for the info. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwen Phoenix Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 On 2/24/2025 at 7:07 AM, Raptor01 said: and built the HB kit after they became available. Hi John! Nice Vark. Why haven't you displayed the spoilers up in that beauty? Cheers, Gwen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrvark Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) On 3/4/2025 at 6:10 PM, Gwen Phoenix said: Hi John! Nice Vark. Why haven't you displayed the spoilers up in that beauty? Cheers, Gwen Spoilers were controlled using the Ground Roll Spoiler Switch (GWSS). At "last chance" just prior to taking the runway, the switch was set to 'BRAKE'. When both throttles were set to idle and the landing gear squat switch sensed 'weight on wheels', the spoilers raised. You could tell when this happened because the spoilers would pop up as the jet sat there at last chance. When they advanced the throttles to take the runway, the spoilers retracted. When they positioned on the runway to do the before takeoff checks, the spoilers would raise up again until the throttles were advanced just prior to begin the takeoff roll. If the takeoff was aborted and the pilot pulled the both throttles to idle, the spoilers would pop up, killing the lift on the wings and increase drag to decrease the stopping distance. In flight, the spoilers functioned as part of the flight control system until the wings were swept aft of 45° when they were locked down and roll control was dependent only on differential horizontal tail movement. (It's a bit more complicated than that, but basically the spoilers were out of the picture with the wings aft of 45.) Experienced pilots tended to keep the wings at 44° as long as possible to maintain maximum roll control. Upon landing, when the aircraft touched down and the landing gear squat switch again sensed weight on wheels and the pilot pulled both throttles to idle, the spoilers would pop up, killing the lift on the wings and increasing drag to shorten the landing roll. Once clear of the runway, the switch was turned 'OFF' and the spoilers lowered for ground ops. On rare occasions, the crew chief would ask the pilot to 'float' the spoilers before engine shutdown so maintenance checks could be performed. He's correctly depicted the model in the way the jet would look parked. Edited March 6 by mrvark Added information Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwen Phoenix Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 23 hours ago, mrvark said: On rare occasions, the crew chief would ask the pilot to 'float' the spoilers before engine shutdown so maintenance checks could be performed. Hi Jim! Such a honour, sir. Well, then I think the crew chief will ask the pilot on my Hobby Boss 1/48 FB-111A build to 'float' the spoilers before engine shutdown so maintenance checks are performed. I love the wings on these swingers to have everything hanging down and up, real dirty. Cheers, Gwen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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