MattP Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 I have a question about a possible build(s). On what station was the GBU-28 carried on the FB-111 during Desert Storm. Also the GBU-28 was also dropped by F-15E's during 'Enduring Freedom' I can only surmise it was the only weapon carried (with heavy escorts)... As this is not a burning question for an current important build, ANY help is appreciated, but not an immediate need... TIA Matt Ponas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nebbor Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 For F-111 this migh be usefull: https://dstorm.eu/pages/loadout/f-111.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) F-111F not FB-111A. Port side outer pylon with a Mk84 LDGP on the starboard side. The sidewinder rails were fitted but empty. Edited June 15, 2022 by ElectroSoldier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-10 LOADER Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 3 hours ago, MattP said: I have a question about a possible build(s). On what station was the GBU-28 carried on the FB-111 during Desert Storm. Also the GBU-28 was also dropped by F-15E's during 'Enduring Freedom' I can only surmise it was the only weapon carried (with heavy escorts)... As this is not a burning question for an current important build, ANY help is appreciated, but not an immediate need... TIA Matt Ponas As the chart shows, only 2 GBU-28's were dropped during the war, on the night of February 27, 1991, by 111's. My next build will be aircraft 70-2391. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 70-2387 was the other. 70-2391 was marked up as the 495th squadron commnders plane at the time, while 2387 was a line jet with the North Africa campaign ribbon. Edited June 15, 2022 by ElectroSoldier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattP Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 Thanks for the info on the ODS 'Varks. Anything on the Echo Eagles? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nebbor Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 According to https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/gbu-28e.htm GBU-28 dropped in Enduring freedom was by B-2, not F-15E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattP Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 As this was an article sourced from "reported by CNN", It's highly suspect as to it's legitimacy... But that being said, I have no problem seeing the B-2 dropping the GBU's. It's more plausible than the Strike Eagle doing the deed. The B-2 is a better platform for the mission. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nebbor Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I do not know if the Washington Post is considered to be more legit than CNN: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/10/12/caves-smashed-pentagon-says/d5c99556-a8d6-4658-b3be-fc0d967aaefa/ They state GBU-28's were dropped from B-2 aircraft and afterwards even correct the initial reported use of GBU-28 to GBU-37 (essentially a GBU-28 with GPS guidance). Some interesting info regarding the GBU-28 found here: http://www.ausairpower.net/GBU-28.html The GBU-28 is cleared for F-111, F-15E and B-2 aircraft but I can only find info online they were dropped operationally from B-2 (as GBU-37 ?) and F-111, no info found for F-15E. So unless somebody provides some kind of evidence of F-15E's dropping (or even carrying) the GBU-28 operationally during Enduring Freedom (or any other wartime operation) I don't believe they actually did. As said the B-2 would be a better suited platform. Just curious about your source(s) MattP that indicate Strike Eagles used the GBU-28 in this conflict. If I were to guess the load-out for F-15E's (for Enduring Freedom or other conflicts) if/when carrying GBU-28 it would be: GBU-28 on centerline, AN/ASQ-13 and -14, wing tanks on both wings, 2 AIM-9 (inner) and 2 AIM-120 on outer shoulder pylons. All other pylons empty. Just speculating on the load-out here, no evidence I have seen GBU-28's were ever carried operationally on F-15E's. Happy to be proven wrong. I found a photo with GBU-28 on the wing pylon normally used by a fuel tank during testing. I would expect the centerline pylon to be the obvious location to prevent offset loads as the F-111 experienced: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 The GBU-28 was used in Allied Force: https://nara.getarchive.net/media/f-15e-strike-eagle-pilot-and-a-weapon-system-officer-assigned-to-the-494th-aac23f Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nebbor Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 OP question was use of GBU-28 during Desert Storm and Enduring Freedom, not GBU-28 use during Allied Force. It is already confusing enough with the requested campaigns, let alone adding an additional one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Nebbor said: OP question was use of GBU-28 during Desert Storm and Enduring Freedom, not GBU-28 use during Allied Force. It is already confusing enough with the requested campaigns, let alone adding an additional one. I think it was you who opened up that one with your previous post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nebbor Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, ElectroSoldier said: I think it was you who opened up that one with your previous post. OP asked for GBU-28 usage in: Desert Storm 1990-1991 Iraq Enduring Freedom 2001-2014 Afghanistan Not: Allied Force 1999 Yugoslavia Please point out what previous post of mine referred to GBU-28 use during Allied Force. There is none I recall, maybe I need reminding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nebbor Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, ElectroSoldier said: I think it was you who opened up that one with your previous post. OP asked for GBU-28 usage in: Desert Storm 1990-1991 Iraq Enduring Freedom 2001-2014 Afghanistan Not: Allied Force 1999 Yugoslavia Please point out what previous post of mine referred to GBU-28 use during Allied Force. There is none I recall, maybe I need reminding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) On 6/23/2022 at 12:57 PM, Nebbor said: So unless somebody provides some kind of evidence of F-15E's dropping (or even carrying) the GBU-28 operationally during Enduring Freedom (or any other wartime operation) I don't believe they actually did. As said the B-2 would be a better suited platform. Just curious about your source(s) MattP that indicate Strike Eagles used the GBU-28 in this conflict. If I were to guess the load-out for F-15E's (for Enduring Freedom or other conflicts) if/when carrying GBU-28 it would be: GBU-28 on centerline, AN/ASQ-13 and -14, wing tanks on both wings, 2 AIM-9 (inner) and 2 AIM-120 on outer shoulder pylons. All other pylons empty. Just speculating on the load-out here, no evidence I have seen GBU-28's were ever carried operationally on F-15E's. Happy to be proven wrong. I found a photo with GBU-28 on the wing pylon normally used by a fuel tank during testing. I would expect the centerline pylon to be the obvious location to prevent offset loads as the F-111 experienced: Edited June 24, 2022 by ElectroSoldier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Personally I had seen that photo of the F-15E of the 494th FS before. I just had no idea when it carried it, which is why I said nothing about it with regards to the OP question. You opened up the idea of other ops as pointed out above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattP Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 Guys PLEASE go easy with each other!!! I really appreciate ANY info on the GBU-28, additional info is a PLUS on It's use. As I stated in the initial request: "As this is not a burning question for a current/important build, ANY help is appreciated, but NOT an immediate need..." Thank you to EVERYBODY for the information! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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