bluedot25 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 (edited) Can anyone answer a couple of questions about the Navy’s T-39 Sabreliner, specifically the “D” model? 1) What is this on the right rear fuselage, and can anyone point me to a good picture of it? 2) On the “D” models, the speed brake was red on the inner surface (the N and G models seem to have been white). My question is, is the speedbrake well also red? Anyone know of any photos of the well? Edited September 4, 2022 by bluedot25 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) your second arrow points to a wing slat, not a speed brake EDIT; OK, now I see where its pointing 🙂 Tony Edited October 1, 2022 by Snowbird3a Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) Did you notice that the strata blue pickup has "ODGE" on the tailgate! Much whimsical! Very flattery! So dyslexic! Edited October 7, 2022 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Dutch said: Did you notice that the strata blue pickup has "ODGE" on the tailgate! Much whimsical! Very flattery! So un-Japanese spelling! Looks like you survived Ian OK then, "utch"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluedot25 Posted October 1, 2022 Author Share Posted October 1, 2022 12 hours ago, Snowbird3a said: your second arrow points to a wing slat, not a speed brake Tony Its pointing up into where the speedbrake well is... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluedot25 Posted October 1, 2022 Author Share Posted October 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Dutch said: Did you notice that the strata blue pickup has "ODGE" on the tailgate! Much whimsical! Very flattery! So un-Japanese spelling! That shot is of the transient ramp at a USAF base (the blue truck gives that away)... “ODGE” is an acronym for “Operations Division Ground Equipment”. The number “1” identifies the truck’s fleet number... (OK... I totally made that up..!) 😜 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) On 10/1/2022 at 4:50 PM, bluedot25 said: That shot is of the transient ramp at a USAF base (the blue truck gives that away)... “ODGE” is an acronym for “Operations Division Ground Equipment”. The number “1” identifies the truck’s fleet number... (OK... I totally made that up..!) 😜 Have you never heard of the "DOGE?" Edited October 4, 2022 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I have an ESOTO in my garage... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Anyway, to get back to Tom's original questions, I don't know the answer to either. No idea what the first arrow points to. On the second question, I would guess either white or red, but probably white. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 As the T-39D was primarily used by the Navy as a radar/navigation trainer, and presumably had consoles with radar screens in the main cabin, I'd suggest that the item in 1) was the housing for a heat exchanger to aid in cooling that equipment... A few alternative (and enlargeable) views showing it: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) Andrew, Your first pic is a nice one, even shows a P-3B Orion 153433 marked LY-12 of VP-92 Minutemen circa 1984-88, when it changed to LY-33. It was modified into a UP-3B and transferred to VQ-1 as PR-44 in 1991 before ending up at AMARC. Bravo! As to the heat exchanger idea, I don't know. It only has a small air scoop on the front end and a medium size exhaust at the rear. It is offset to starboard though, that much is clear. K/r, Dutch Edited October 7, 2022 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Dutch said: As to the heat exchanger idea, I don't know. It only has a small air scoop on the front end and a medium size exhaust at the rear. It is offset to starboard though, that much is clear. K/r, Dutch Isn't a shaped scoop/inlet simply an aerodynamic feature? U-2 oil cooler intakes, for example: E-3B Sentry rear fuselage with separate flush 'exhaust' below - E-6 Mercury and E-8 JSTARS have similar features: Classic example - P-51 Mustang oil cooler inlet with 'square' profile waste gate: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) Andrew, Upon closer inspection in Zoom function (sorry, I cannot zoom on my other computer), in fact it does appear to be a heat exchanger. Thank you for the benefit of your wisdom. K/r, Dutch Edited October 8, 2022 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 As a slight aside, anyone else noticed that the VX-31 bird is carrying USAF-style numerals with 45-degree angled corners? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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