Dave Williams Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) While the kits are amazing, Takom missed some obvious items. The kit lacks the 4 helmet sensor units in the cockpit. Not sure how they missed this since Hasegawa even included them in their 1/48 kit (well, the two for the CPG at least). The old style Optical Relay Tube CPG sight for the D kit. The kit only includes the later square LCD display. Not sure when they changed over to the square display, but the D kit only includes the original PNVS turret and the only markings are for 2003 era aircraft, if that matters. The bump stops (not sure what they are really called) for the engine access doors. These are the small pointy items on top of the front of the engine nacelles. When the engine doors are open, this part rests on top of the stub wing and provides support for using the open door as a work platform. The strange part is that the kit access doors have slots in them for these items to go into, but they aren’t in the instructions, and I can’t find them on the parts trees. Edited January 27, 2023 by Dave Williams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Sir, Good observation. thank you for sharing that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 It looks like item #3 is taken care of. The parts are in the kit as part A5 and are shown in the instructions. I missed it initially because the instructions are so busy, and a number of the later drawings of the nearly assembled kit show the parts not installed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd S. Werner, Jr. Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 6:18 PM, Dave Williams said: While the kits are amazing, Takom missed some obvious items. The kit lacks the 4 helmet sensor units in the cockpit. Not sure how they missed this since Hasegawa even included them in their 1/48 kit (well, the two for the CPG at least). The old style Optical Relay Tube CPG sight for the D kit. The kit only includes the later square LCD display. Not sure when they changed over to the square display, but the D kit only includes the original PNVS turret and the only markings are for 2003 era aircraft, if that matters. The bump stops (not sure what they are really called) for the engine access doors. These are the small pointy items on top of the front of the engine nacelles. When the engine doors are open, this part rests on top of the stub wing and provides support for using the open door as a work platform. The strange part is that the kit access doors have slots in them for these items to go into, but they aren’t in the instructions, and I can’t find them on the parts trees. If you can find someone that will do them in CAD, I'll do them but I need CAD done to do it. Floyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salomon Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 How are those sensors look like? do you have some closeup pictures? I'll can make its with CAD for the 3d print. I my opinion, this Apache is awesome in many points but the cockpit needs some update because details still be very basic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 This picture shows the pilot’s sensors. They are on either side of the top of the seat. One is on the far side, facing the camera. It’s the rectangular box with the two goldish colored reflective horizontal strips. The one on the other side, closest to the camera, is viewed from the side. http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/michael_block/ah-64a/images/ah-64a_42_of_52.jpg The two for the CPG are similarly on either side of the top of the seat. I believe they are actually attached to the front of the pilot’s IP shroud, while the pilots’s seniors are attached to the rear cockpit bulkhead. http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/michael_block/ah-64a/images/ah-64a_44_of_52.jpg There are probably better pictures out there, but they show where they are and what to look for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salomon Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I'll draw that sensor for next week and will share that STL file with our community. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salomon Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Anybody have better reference pictures of that part? please share its Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salomon Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 That guy already worked on the helmet sensor. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10224496018401927&set=pcb.502264528750377 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 Noticed that the internals for the large anti-collision lights on the rear side of the engine nacelles aren’t in the kit. You just get a large clear cover that sits over a plain flat pad molded on the nacelle. This is what should be under the cover. https://www.largescaleplanes.com/walkaround/images/184/184-106.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salomon Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) Here you go, this model isn't in the right scale, the right scale is 5.8 mm, pieces are separate for further modification. APACHE_SIGNAL_LIGHT.obj Edited February 15, 2023 by salomon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd S. Werner, Jr. Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 13 hours ago, salomon said: Here you go, this model isn't in the right scale, the right scale is 5.8 mm, pieces are separate for further modification. APACHE_SIGNAL_LIGHT.objUnavailable Love it. I'd love to sell this and your other upgrades through Werner's Wings. I'm working on a decal sheet currently Floyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salomon Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 To be honest I think this model is almost perfect, a very good remark on the collision lights that are absent. On the other hand I do not see what it can still be improved. For my part I do not have many more photo references on the Apache and do not know it very much more than the other helicopter. Feel free to use that 3d file, my suggestion to print it part with transparent resin and I don't get time to play with my 3d printer by now. I hope that you will include inscriptions of the cockpit, and here are many. I already bough the Werner's Wings products before buying the 3d printer, and those are awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 11 hours ago, Floyd S. Werner, Jr. said: Love it. I'd love to sell this and your other upgrades through Werner's Wings. I'm working on a decal sheet currently Floyd Go Floyd, go!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd S. Werner, Jr. Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Says the file is unavailable. Can you reach out to me on email at fwernerjr@comcast.net ? Floyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karl h Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 it will be nice if the decal sheet would have colour callouts for the kit, since it has non. will the sheet be for the D and E (I have the E) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd S. Werner, Jr. Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 7 hours ago, karl h said: it will be nice if the decal sheet would have colour callouts for the kit, since it has non. will the sheet be for the D and E (I have the E) Inside the cockpit, flat black. Exterior US Army Helicopter Green FS34031 with touch up in whatever color you like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salomon Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 What's missing into the cockpit? except the helmet sensors? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, salomon said: What's missing into the cockpit? except the helmet sensors? Seatbelts first and foremost. Maybe a couple of M4’s stowed in their racks would be nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salomon Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Seat belts are included but not mentioning on the manual, by the way the building manual is really confusing. We really need a lot of reference picture to build this awesome model. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 3 hours ago, salomon said: What's missing into the cockpit? except the helmet sensors? Gaspers (the ball type a/c vents just above the helmet sensors), and the old ORT sight for the CPG, if you want to do an early D model, like the ones the kit decals are provided for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd S. Werner, Jr. Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 5 hours ago, salomon said: What's missing into the cockpit? except the helmet sensors? There are the helmet sensors in the AH-64D and vents are missing. The other thing is that the aircraft represented need the older style ORT display. Other than that I think it is pretty complete. Floyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salomon Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Floyd, do you have any reference picture of those parts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
juanchopancho Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 What are the internal paint color used for internal engine area/internal fuselage? Earlier 2000s it was like zinc chromate? 2012+ it's like a light grey-green? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd S. Werner, Jr. Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 17 hours ago, salomon said: Floyd, do you have any reference picture of those parts? Email me at fwernerjr@comcast.net Floyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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