mppd@yahoo.com Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 The Air Force Museum repainted their Skyraider grey and white like a Navy version, but I have a feeling that the pre 1966 (camouflaged) Air Force Skyraiders which operated in Southeast Asia were all COIN grey (ADC grey) with no white underneath. Can anyone confirm? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikar Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 When the A.F. pulled the A-1s for use with the V.N.A.F., they were Painted in Navy colors. And for a time only the markings, such as snit markings changed. Standard A.F. camouflage and markings were added. I went with my Father to the A.F. Museum back when I got drafted and the A-1 that was used to pick up a downed pilot was on display just inside the gate, andit was painted in Nave colors. Back then a large portion of the aircraft were still sitting outside and some were still waiting to be unloaded from flatbed train cars or sitting partly removed from the other aircraft. When Monogran came out in the 1960s with their 1/72 model of a A-1E it was in Grey and white and Fujimi's model of a A-1J in V.N.A.F. markings also hod Navy paint. By the time I got over there, all combat aircraft were painted in three color cammo. I think the only exception for combat aircraft wouild be the F-102 and the AC-139 A &H. The "H" was overall black and the "A" was black underneath and sides but the top was three tome cammo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drifterdon Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Here is an article about Maj Bernie Fisher (MOH recipient) and the plane that he flew during that mission in A Shau Valley that day. Looking at photos, it was all grey at the time and doesn't appear to have gained it's Navy colors until being repainted at the AF Museum. https://www.thisdayinaviation.com/tag/bernie-fisher/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikar Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 So what would be the actual grey color of teh A-1 back in the 60s? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mppd@yahoo.com Posted January 30, 2023 Author Share Posted January 30, 2023 Thank you for the replies. I did some more digging and actually found a few grey and white A-1Es, but most were as I suspected, all grey, including the one flown on the MOH mission. The AFM fails again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 16 hours ago, Drifterdon said: Here is an article about Maj Bernie Fisher (MOH recipient) and the plane that he flew during that mission in A Shau Valley that day. Looking at photos, it was all grey at the time and doesn't appear to have gained it's Navy colors until being repainted at the AF Museum. https://www.thisdayinaviation.com/tag/bernie-fisher/ Brother Don, Thanks for that article link. It's pretty much assured that Maj Bernie Fisher's SPAD was all Lt. Aircraft Gray FS36622. K/r, Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Dutch said: Brother Don, Thanks for that article link. It's pretty much assured that Maj Bernie Fisher's SPAD was all Lt. Aircraft Gray FS36622. K/r, Dutch Shouldn't that be overall COIN Gray, FS36473, Dutch? FS36622 was the SE Asia camouflage scheme's underside colour... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Ah so desuka! You are correct. FS36473 = Aircraft gray, COIN Gray, ADC Gray; call it what you will. I must have clicked on the setting next to the one I intended. My mouse has a little lag in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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