uncarina Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 I have the ZM kit but haven’t had any luck finding the ZM 3-D cockpit set. Would the Quinta set designed for the Meng kit fit instead? Thanks, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plastictiger Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 ZM has their own that was made by Red Fox. It looks nice. I got one when it first came out. I don't know where you would find one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt B Posted June 25, 2023 Author Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) Good to know. I had just been assuming that Quinta would do a cockpit specifically for the ZM F-4G, but I guess they've had long enough to produce it, and so I'll just get over it. I found a ZM cockpit for their F-4G a few minutes ago at Sprue Brothers, but it appears that it was the last one in stock. My apologies to uncarina, but I just bought it. I do happen to have a few extra Quinta cockpit sets for the Meng kit, though, and if uncarina would be interested in one of those, feel free to PM me about it. Edited June 25, 2023 by Curt B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Studneru Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Try asking Alexander Trofimov if they plan to release ZM F-4G set in near future. https://www.facebook.com/groups/516305466497357/user/100008293873226/ With all the development they've done, their history of releasing sets for models from different manufacturers (see f/a-18 - they did Hase, HB, Kinetic and Meng) and a few sets already done for ZM it sounds like a reasonable thing to release to me... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncarina Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 6/25/2023 at 3:25 PM, Curt B said: Good to know. I had just been assuming that Quinta would do a cockpit specifically for the ZM F-4G, but I guess they've had long enough to produce it, and so I'll just get over it. I found a ZM cockpit for their F-4G a few minutes ago at Sprue Brothers, but it appears that it was the last one in stock. My apologies to uncarina, but I just bought it. I do happen to have a few extra Quinta cockpit sets for the Meng kit, though, and if uncarina would be interested in one of those, feel free to PM me about it. That’s interesting because I have an in-stock notification request from SB and never got the notification. Good for you! Cheers, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt B Posted June 27, 2023 Author Share Posted June 27, 2023 8 hours ago, uncarina said: That’s interesting because I have an in-stock notification request from SB and never got the notification. Good for you! Cheers, Tom Tom: Now I feel really bad. I could use the extra Quinta sets for the Meng F-4G one my ZM F-4G, as others have said there was very little that would not work. Would you be interested in the ZM set when I get it? I"ll be happy to send it to you, since you rightly had first dibs on it! Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncarina Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Curt, No worries! I've had my share of finding hard to get kits and parts, so no dibs necessary, but you are very kind. Could you point me towards the discussion of adapting the Quinta Meng set to the ZM kit? Thanks, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt B Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) Hey Tom, I looked back at the post where i thought there was a discussion about using the Meng F-4G cockpit sett on a ZM F-4G, however, what was stated was that they adapted the ZM Quinta set to the Meng F-4G, which I think had to be incorrect, since there is no ZM Quinta set...yet. However, you can see what was written here, on page 1 of the thread, a post by BillS, a bit below the middle of the page. Curt Edited June 28, 2023 by Curt B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncarina Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Thanks Curt! I ended up ordering the Kelik set 😊. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt B Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 Good for you, Tom. I’d be curious what you think of it when you get it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike_45 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I used the Red Fox/ZM set on the ZM and the quinta on the Meng F-4G. Would have been happier with quinta for both. To me the Red Fox ones can just pop off their paper backing and fly away, you have to really be on the look out and do it all in one sitting just in case one tiny piece flys off and you dont notice so you have a chance to find it! Quinta also started to do some more sidewall stuff (not just the circuit breakers) on the Meng set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D. Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Meng F-4G for $67 shipped right now an Amazon. Got mine today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Meng kits are cheaper on aliexpess. Phantom is ~$53+tax shipped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jgrease Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I think that Meng's F-4 kits make for a pleasant build. No fuss no muss. You can debate the panel line depth and heat shields all day. I'll take ten. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt B Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 On 6/28/2023 at 7:13 AM, uncarina said: Thanks Curt! I ended up ordering the Kelik set 😊. Cheers, Tom Hey Tom, did you ever end up getting the Kelik set for your Meng F-4G, and if you did, did you ever finish the model, or at least get to installing all the cockpit details? Curious what you thought about the Kelik set. I know it’s been a long time, but what brought me back here were the last 2 posts from the last few days. Happy Holidays! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncarina Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Curt B said: Hey Tom, did you ever end up getting the Kelik set for your Meng F-4G, and if you did, did you ever finish the model, or at least get to installing all the cockpit details? Curious what you thought about the Kelik set. I know it’s been a long time, but what brought me back here were the last 2 posts from the last few days. Happy Holidays! Thanks Curt! To you as well. I have the set but haven’t yet started assembly. I’m actually building the ZM FW-190 right now. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt B Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, uncarina said: Thanks Curt! To you as well. I have the set but haven’t yet started assembly. I’m actually building the ZM FW-190 right now. Cheers, Tom Great, Tom, thanks so much for the very quick response! I certainly understand working on various and sundry models at various times for various reasons!! i have so many kits that I'll NEVER get close to beginning, much less completing, all of them! I'm working on my 1/48 Arma Hobby Hurricane Mk. IIc, myself, and hope to get back to a started but not finished 1/35 Meng USMC M1A1 Abrams, and THEN maybe back to the two F-4 planes I have in progress, the ZM F-4C and the Tamiya F-4B. Of course, I have maybe 2 dozen or more OTHER in-progress models that I may consider getting to! What are your thoughts on the ZM Fw-190? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncarina Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 11 hours ago, Curt B said: Great, Tom, thanks so much for the very quick response! I certainly understand working on various and sundry models at various times for various reasons!! i have so many kits that I'll NEVER get close to beginning, much less completing, all of them! I'm working on my 1/48 Arma Hobby Hurricane Mk. IIc, myself, and hope to get back to a started but not finished 1/35 Meng USMC M1A1 Abrams, and THEN maybe back to the two F-4 planes I have in progress, the ZM F-4C and the Tamiya F-4B. Of course, I have maybe 2 dozen or more OTHER in-progress models that I may consider getting to! What are your thoughts on the ZM Fw-190? Curt, you are just like me! I don’t want to drift the thread so will keep this short: I love ZM kits, having built six so far. The fit and engineering is amazing, and the instructions are among the top three along with Kotare and WNW. Just be careful of the fit of the engine and eleven cowling pieces. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D. Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) On 12/13/2023 at 7:32 PM, Helmsman said: Meng kits are cheaper on aliexpess. Phantom is ~$53+tax shipped. True, but I’m not entirely comfortable giving my payment info to them and I’d support a USA based seller Edited December 24, 2023 by Charlie D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted February 12, 2024 Share Posted February 12, 2024 On 6/25/2023 at 12:52 PM, uncarina said: I have the ZM kit but haven’t had any luck finding the ZM 3-D cockpit set. Would the Quinta set designed for the Meng kit fit instead? Thanks, Tom I thought I'd reply to this question in case somebody else is searching for info about the Quinta cockpits for the Z-M and Meng F-4s. While you can use the set intended for the Z-M kit on the Meng kit, it's a bit more difficult to go the other direction and use the Meng set on the Z-M kit. I bought the Meng F-4E set for my Z-M build because it has the modified WSO console and instrument panel for DMAS/ARN-101 F-4Es. Dimensionally, what I found with the F-4E set will probably apply to the F-4G kits as well. I found that the forward cockpit instrument panels and consoles are just a tiny bit too large for the Z-M kit, but can be made to work. The Meng rear panel is also slightly larger and is flatter than Z-Ms, meaning that a couple of smaller details are all on the same plane or missing on the Meng, while they're on different planes with the Z-M. Easily addressed with a hobby knife. The Meng rear consoles, however, are too long by several mm, so the details are stretched to fill the space. I think Meng got the INS and gyro black boxes too small or not far enough forward in the cockpit. Z-M got the console length and black boxes correct. The Quinta consoles can be made to fit the Z-M kit, but you'll end up chopping them up a bit. HTH. Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncarina Posted February 12, 2024 Share Posted February 12, 2024 Ben, This is just what I was looking for! I appreciate you looking into this. Sincerely, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted February 12, 2024 Share Posted February 12, 2024 You’re welcome! Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miramar Road Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 https://www.zoukeimura.co.jp/en/products/sws48_15_f4e-late.html Looks like ZM has started accepting pre-orders for the late F-4E. They have photos of the built kit as well. They will release it with MO ANG commemorative markings in the Hill Grey scheme. Even though that particular airframe lacks these items, ZM says the kit will include TISEO and AN/ARN-101 antennas. If that's the case, I'd love to try that Seymour Johnson-based F-4E in CO markings with the Euro 1 scheme. Very cool scheme, but the Afterburner decal scheme is long gone and those tend to go for a fortune on Ebay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff M Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 Looks good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted February 18, 2024 Share Posted February 18, 2024 (edited) Based on what’s already included in the early F-4E kit, it will have the ARN-101 doghouse, TISEO, and an ALQ-131, so at least the exterior parts will be there for a Seymour Johnson jet. Hopefully they’ll also include correct cockpit parts. I just saw what Ultracast wants for the Afterburner sheet. Yikes! Ben Edited February 18, 2024 by Ben Brown Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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