breadneck Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) So it seems this now falls under "dangerous goods" however minuscule. Anyone tried shipping small hobby tins from USA as regular post or no can do anymore? Who is making life so hard for us anyway? Seems like a fraud to make people pay extra to have these things ship as dangerous goods when they are in fact harmless. I`ve shipped a lot of "dangerous" stuff over the Atlantic ocean in the past and yet no cargo jets have exploded midair and fallen down into the ocean would you believe. Edited May 24, 2023 by breadneck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modelingbob Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 If the paint has the "flame" icon printed on the label, it can't be legally shipped via air in the USA, without the extra documentation required (and of course, that's expensive). It's the law and there is no point in arguing it, it is what it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
breadneck Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 Why is it a domestic US law can decide what is allowed to ship in international airspace to a country with different laws? This is very unreasonable to say the least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MHaz Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 11 hours ago, breadneck said: Why is it a domestic US law can decide what is allowed to ship in international airspace to a country with different laws? This is very unreasonable to say the least. Because the aircraft departs from a US airport and flies through US airspace before it reaches international waters. It's the same reason the bars and casinos don't open on cruise ships until they reach international waters - US federal and state laws of the port of departure are in force until then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
82Whitey51 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I heard that if you just list "model parts" on your customs forms you should be "A OK"... 😉👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
breadneck Posted May 26, 2023 Author Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, 82Whitey51 said: I heard that if you just list "model parts" on your customs forms you should be "A OK"... 😉👍 Yeah, here`s hoping it`s not a federal offence to do just that...which i may end up doing, this matter being so incredible minuscule and trifle. I did talk to Jetcarrier.com which ships from the eastcoast and they said for something so small they didn`t even bother charging any extra fees for dangerous goods or whatever you want to call it. Of course they would be shipping it in a boat. Jesus, i hope the boat won`t explode and sink to the bottom of the ocean or something.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modelingbob Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 20 hours ago, breadneck said: Why is it a domestic US law can decide what is allowed to ship in international airspace to a country with different laws? This is very unreasonable to say the least. Because you specifically asked about shipping from the USA to a foreign country. As I already explained, you can't air ship any paints with the "flame" icon via air without extra documentation. That's the law. Find another country that doesn't have that law and get your paints from there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwen Phoenix Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Yeh, I've got to suffer hobby shops not shipping paints overseas via airmail a huge lot! Sometimes shops will tell me right from the start that specific paints are shipped within CONUS only. It's such a royal drag to find the specific paint you need in a US store and then not to be able to ship it. And all the more so when you find out that couriers based in the US will ship ANYTHING via airmail at a high price, of course. How is that possible? With the tag price couriers ask for shipping one bottle via airmail, I could easily get almost half the paint range I'm after... Not fun to see security regulations can be bent by big money, huh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
breadneck Posted May 26, 2023 Author Share Posted May 26, 2023 6 hours ago, modelingbob said: Because you specifically asked about shipping from the USA to a foreign country. As I already explained, you can't air ship any paints with the "flame" icon via air without extra documentation. That's the law. Find another country that doesn't have that law and get your paints from there. I notice you keep quoting "the law". There is no flame icon on the Testors Metalizers i had in mind, just says flammable which i am sure it is if exposed to oxygen. In other words you would have to unscrew the lid (can be extremely hard at times) and break out your lighter and see what`s cooking. It still isn`t clear to me what these documents should read. At the end of the day there is more money in the pocket for the USPS, they always like to jack up their shipping rates don`t they and make as many special arrangements as possible for anything out of the ordinary. Let`s be honest here, these small glass jars present no danger whatsoever so why pay the extra silly fees? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwen Phoenix Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 hours ago, breadneck said: At the end of the day there is more money in the pocket for the USPS, they always like to jack up their shipping rates don`t they and make as many special arrangements as possible for anything out of the ordinary. I wholly concur! And as if, AS IF one jar of MRP were something out of the ordinary. On my next trip back from Séfrika, I'm going to stuff my pants so full of MRP bottles that I'm going to throw a terrible temper tantrum if someone even dares search me! That'll teach them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lockheed2004 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 The MSDS for Testors enamel paint classifies it as a Class 2 flammable hazard. Take it up with testors if you have a problem, maybe you can get them to recategorize all the paint they make. Just because you don’t think it’s flammable, doesn’t mean the people making the decisions share your thoughts. I’m sure the USPS is just lining their pockets on overseas shipments of flammable liquids… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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