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Has anyone tried the ResKit noses for the Hobbyboss F-105s?

 

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/RSU72-0238

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/RSU48-0340

 

Do they capture the real thing's gently-tapering arc, with an ogive-shaped curve at the radome?

 

Also, anyone tried fitting them onto the Monogram kits?

 

The noses of both the Hobbyboss and Monogram/Revell kits bother me. To my eyes, both kits' noses seem too straight and doesn't seem to have the contours.

 

 

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I can’t comment on the Reskit parts, but the Hobby Boss nose is definitely wrong. I think Monogram’s comes pretty close, but the pitot probe part is a mess and throws off the look of the whole thing. Many years ago, I visited Seymour Johnson AFB with our local club to present some models to a few of the pilots and one of the guys brought along a built Monogram Thud. We had a chance to compare it with the F-105D gate guard and I thought Monogram did a pretty good job. I was later able to improve the looks of mine by modifying a Master Details metal probe meant for the HB kit. 


The biggest issue with both kits is the canopy and fairing aft of it lack the bulging sides of the real thing. It’s something I missed for years, even though I kept seeing references to the canopy shape being off. I give Monogram a pass because of mold limitations of the day, but there’s no excuse for HB missing it. Maybe Reskit can be persuaded to do a correction.

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Ben

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If you ever heard a 105 light the burner with it's water injection and roar down the runway

just the thought of it will forever put a smile on your face. One of the "sounds of freedom" 

I was able to witness!

 

Cheers...Ron

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3 hours ago, aircommando130 said:

If you ever heard a 105 light the burner with it's water injection and roar down the runway

just the thought of it will forever put a smile on your face. One of the "sounds of freedom" 

I was able to witness!

 

Cheers...Ron

When I was a kid, we lived in a neighborhood near the end of one of the runways at McConnell AFB, KS. I can still remember the Thud & F-100 burners lighting off, howling F-4C/Ds and the occasional F-104. Back when you could tell what was flying over by the sound of the engine!

 

Ben

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I can't help with the OPs question, but I agree about the Monogram Thud. The real A/C has an ogive, Mono provides a cone. I made myself crazy over a fix until I simply added a .030 shim on the BACK side to eliminate that step between fuselage and cone, filled the pitot hole in the front, and filed the fwd half to taper to a point. Now the length is correct for the cone itself. I then drilled a hole, and inserted new pitot made from 1mm Albion NiSilver tube, with a needle in the end. A better modeler may have come up with a more elegant solution, but this is what I did. Cheers!

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12 hours ago, JackMan said:

Do they capture the real thing's gently-tapering arc, with an ogive-shaped curve at the radome?

Also, anyone tried fitting them onto the Monogram kits?

The noses of both the Hobbyboss and Monogram/Revell kits bother me. To my eyes, both kits' noses seem too straight and doesn't seem to have the contours.

 

Hi Jack,

I don't think the ResKit radome will wholly solve the lack of ogive-shaped curve on the forward fuselage of the Trumpeter Thud kits because both the whole forward fuselage and radome on that kit is too straight.

Back in the day, there was a good fix by DMold Modelworks for either the Trumpeter or Monogram kits in 1/48th scale. I missed the chance to get mine because Dmitri Malkov ceased selling these jewels when the pandemic broke out.

Anyway, I recall him telling me that the fix for the Monogram kit was long OOP by early 2020, and the Trumpeter fix (which was still available), wouldn't fit the Monogram kit. But here's a good picture of the fix for the Trumpeter kit; check the ogive-shaped forward fuselage and radome in that correction set, which is quite distinctive in the Thud.

 

rOEQvOT.jpeg

 

Wish Dmitri Malkov were still in business :crying2:Does anyone have news regarding him?

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

 

Gwen

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5 hours ago, IAGeezer said:

 

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That looks very good. I think you did a good job because it looks way better than simply out of the box. Very nice metallic finish, too :thumbsup:

 

2 hours ago, Gwen Phoenix said:

 

Hi Jack,

I don't think the ResKit radome will wholly solve the lack of ogive-shaped curve on the forward fuselage of the Trumpeter Thud kits because both the whole forward fuselage and radome on that kit is too straight.

Back in the day, there was a good fix by DMold Modelworks for either the Trumpeter or Monogram kits in 1/48th scale. I missed the chance to get mine because Dmitri Malkov ceased selling these jewels when the pandemic broke out.

Anyway, I recall him telling me that the fix for the Monogram kit was long OOP by early 2020, and the Trumpeter fix (which was still available), wouldn't fit the Monogram kit. But here's a good picture of the fix for the Trumpeter kit; check the ogive-shaped forward fuselage and radome in that correction set, which is quite distinctive in the Thud.

 

rOEQvOT.jpeg

 

Wish Dmitri Malkov were still in business :crying2:Does anyone have news regarding him?

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

 

Gwen

 

Gwen, I see what you mean. the first two photos of Dmitri's set really shows the difference of how the entire front fuselage should be contoured.  I think I'll hold off from getting the ResKit sets because....looking at D-Molds set....I think it's not just the nose that should be replaced.

 

Roger Jackson addressed this with a spare Mig-25 nose and did an awesome job:

https://modelingmadness.com/review/viet/jackson105i.jpg

https://modelingmadness.com/review/viet/jackson105h.jpg

https://modelingmadness.com/review/viet/jackson105.htm

 

 

Compared to the un-modified nose (WARNING: NSFW):

https://www.hyperscale.com/features/2001/images/F-105D_PussyGalore-14.jpg

https://www.hyperscale.com/features/2001/images/F-105D_PussyGalore-03.jpg

https://www.hyperscale.com/features/2001/f105dda_2.htm

 

It's subtle, but to me, it's like the nose of the F-14 Tomcat or the F-15.  Quite noticeable.

 

Thanks everyone, for the inputs.

 

 

 

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Fond memories of building the Monogram kit back in the eighties…but it’s high time we were graced with a new tool Thud in 1:48 (sorry, HB’s 2008 releases didn’t lift the bar), made to today’s more exacting standards. Even with nose corrections, the windscreen and canopy shapes (made so apparent in Ben’s photo above) still present problems for discriminating modelers. 
 

Rich

(who sometimes wishes he weren’t so d@mn discriminating!)
 

 

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18 hours ago, JackMan said:

I think it's not just the nose that should be replaced.

Roger Jackson addressed this with a spare Mig-25 nose and did an awesome job:

 

Hi Jack,

Interesting how Roger grafted a MiG-25 nose onto the Monogram Thud kit.

I got this profile on the forward fuselage/nose of the F-105D. It'd be interesting to scale it to 1/48 to see how far it is from the shape of the Monogram kit.

 

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Also, someone in here promised to lend me a copy of the 1/48 DMold correction set for the Monogram kit. Will see how it fits the F-105D profile.  

 

17 hours ago, RichB63 said:

Even with nose corrections, the windscreen and canopy shapes (made so apparent in Ben’s photo above) still present problems for discriminating modelers. 

 

Hi Rich,

I agree with you on the windscreen/canopy shape issues on the Monogram Thud kit. But perhaps I also remember something about the wings having the wrong anhedral angle? My main concern was the fragile legs on the main landing gear, which I'm repalcing with Aerocraft's brass. 

Cheers,

 

Gwen

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The Monogram kit struts are sufficient to support the model. I had one in my display case for ~25 years and it would merely shimmy when my 55 lb Lab ran through the room. 
 

I’ve read the same about the anhedral but I can’t see anything wrong with that part of the kit. Of course it took me years to finally figure out the canopy issue so my eyesight might be questionable.

 

Ben

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On 3/29/2024 at 7:56 PM, Gwen Phoenix said:

 

Hi Jack,

I don't think the ResKit radome will wholly solve the lack of ogive-shaped curve on the forward fuselage of the Trumpeter Thud kits because both the whole forward fuselage and radome on that kit is too straight.

Back in the day, there was a good fix by DMold Modelworks for either the Trumpeter or Monogram kits in 1/48th scale. I missed the chance to get mine because Dmitri Malkov ceased selling these jewels when the pandemic broke out.

Anyway, I recall him telling me that the fix for the Monogram kit was long OOP by early 2020, and the Trumpeter fix (which was still available), wouldn't fit the Monogram kit. But here's a good picture of the fix for the Trumpeter kit; check the ogive-shaped forward fuselage and radome in that correction set, which is quite distinctive in the Thud.

 

rOEQvOT.jpeg

 

Wish Dmitri Malkov were still in business :crying2:Does anyone have news regarding him?

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

 

Gwen

Dimitri closed down because of the sanctions placed on Russia after the invasion of Ukraine. He couldn't export his products to the west. At least that is what I recall.

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I think this picture I took at AMARC really shows the contours of the F-105's nose to great effect. The spraylat coating gets rid of all the distractions caused by camouflage and radomes to reveal the shape of the nose.

f-105g_040805-61.jpg

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1 hour ago, mrvark said:

I think this picture I took at AMARC really shows the contours of the F-105's nose to great effect. The spraylat coating gets rid of all the distractions caused by camouflage and radomes to reveal the shape of the nose.

f-105g_040805-61.jpg

Great pic.   It also highlights the distictive shape of the canopy that the model manufacturers got wrong.

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22 hours ago, mrvark said:

I think this picture I took at AMARC really shows the contours of the F-105's nose to great effect. The spraylat coating gets rid of all the distractions caused by camouflage and radomes to reveal the shape of the nose.

f-105g_040805-61.jpg

 

I agree. Almost F-14-ish nose shape.  This pic really does show ogive-shape contour to good effect, particularly against the darker background.

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On 4/3/2024 at 10:04 AM, Jon Krol said:

Dimitri closed down because of the sanctions placed on Russia after the invasion of Ukraine. He couldn't export his products to the west. At least that is what I recall.

 

Hi Jon,

Thanks for your input.

If I'm not wrong, of course, I recall Dmitri had moved to the US much before closing down his business?

Could somebody confirm?

Cheers,

 

Gwen

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He was in the US. He was staying around Tucson AZ. He was friends with Fotios Rouch but went back to Russia because his resin business wasn't going well. When I last ordered from him, his S-2 Tracker nacelle correction set, he was in Russia.

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