1/48 F-86A: it's almost here...

[Sabrejet]

Here's an alternative take: section through the FJ-2 nose with centralised NLG main fitting but offset wheel bay. Horses for courses...

[Bozothenutter]

9 hours ago, Sabrejet said:

Here's an alternative take: section through the FJ-2 nose with centralised NLG main fitting but offset wheel bay. Horses for courses...

That would actually make the mod much simpler...

[dai phan]

On 2/20/2025 at 3:35 PM, Bozothenutter said:

That is an absolutely cool discovery!

Sharp eyes sez I. CP realized the error and corrected in the 72 version. Dai

[BWDenver]

Out of curiosity, what would be a good color for the INSIDE of the jet pipe?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Bryan

[One-Oh-Four]

On 5/10/2024 at 4:19 PM, BWDenver said:

They did a really nice job on the air brake!  these were shot on the Holloman Drone ramp, they are shots of a US Army Canadair, used for the patriot tests.

 

Love the color of the speed brakes.

 

Bryan

 

On 5/10/2024 at 5:49 PM, BWDenver said:

Good to know, same color though?

 

On 5/10/2024 at 6:24 PM, Sabrejet said:

Yes! "Interior Green", which isn't really an FS shade, but we've colour-matched it with some panels I have.

Sorry for reviving an older thread but it just contains a wealth of information! Looking at the colors of the airbrakes and wells, I would use something like FS34092.
 

 

 

However, the instructions state that it should be the “conventional” interior green for for the F-86A, the zinc-chromate that resembles FS34151.

 

It gets me a bit confused. Was the -A finished in conventional “interior green” and the later marks in the much darker green? Or was interior green and the shades cited that resemble FS34151 really a bit of a mistake in the instructions?

 

 

 

 

Edited July 17, 2025 by One-Oh-Four
Textual refinement… :)

[BWDenver]

6 hours ago, One-Oh-Four said:

 

 

Sorry for reviving an older thread but it just contains a wealth of information! Looking at the colors of the airbrakes and wells, I would use something like FS34092.
 

 

 

 

However, the instructions state that it should be the “conventional” interior green for for the F-86A, the zinc-chromate that resembles FS34151.

It gets me a bit confused. Was the -A finished in conventional “interior green” and the later marks in the much darker green? Or was interior green and the shades cited that resemble FS34151 really a bit of a mistake in the instructions?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just as an FYI, remember the P/F-86A was essentially a late 40's aircraft.  It showed up long before DoD standardized on "moder" colors.  It was contracted for in late 1945 and first flew on October 1, 1947.

[One-Oh-Four]

14 hours ago, BWDenver said:

Just as an FYI, remember the P/F-86A was essentially a late 40's aircraft.  It showed up long before DoD standardized on "moder" colors.  It was contracted for in late 1945 and first flew on October 1, 1947.

I know, I know… I use the FS numbers solely as pointers to “in the ballpark” colors.

 

The “interior green” we use for decades in models of US WW2 aircraft models was in reality a mixture of yellow zinc chromate with black pigment although colors like Bronze Green and Dull Dark Green were also used by Republic and Boeing. 
 

That’s why “interior green” is somewhat confusing. Especially seeing that Clear Prop! advises to use a green that’s close to yzc + black, while photos of the bulkheads at the fuselage break of F-86E’s and F’s show a much darker green that’s closer to FS 34092 to my eyes.

 

As the colors inside P-51 Mustang wheel wells did change during the course of production, I’m wondering if there was an evolution of the green used inside wheel wells and airbrakes of the different F-86 versions.

[BWDenver]

7 hours ago, One-Oh-Four said:

 

 

As the colors inside P-51 Mustang wheel wells did change during the course of production, I’m wondering if there was an evolution of the green used inside wheel wells and airbrakes of the different F-86 versions.

Duncan Curtis is likely the one who would have an answer on that.  the other mix is the Canadair airframes.  They actually switched to "Dark Grey" before USAF did.

 

Earlier in the thread Duncan posted an image of an interior art with his "mix", looked pretty close.

 

Brayn

 

Bryan

[One-Oh-Four]

Thanks, I must have overlooked that post. Me go look! 

[BWDenver]

1 hour ago, One-Oh-Four said:

Thanks, I must have overlooked that post. Me go look! 

My bad, it was this one...

Trying to get a close color match for a Canadair Mk.5 Sabre speed brake color - Jet Modeling - ARC Discussion Forums

 

Bryan

[ya-gabor]

One can say that the bloody war in Europe is so far away and has little effect on those living in the rest of the world. But it has a very direct connection even to our hobby also and lives of some great designers.

 

Here is a quote from Sabrejets post:

 

 

"Truly shitty news from Ukraine that 3D designer Konstantin Kolobov has been killed on the front line. Konstantin was the man behind the design of kits for Clear Prop! (including the F-86 series), Mikro Mir and most recently DBMK's awesome 1/32 Sea Fury. Some of these manufacturers are already making plans to commemorate Konstantin with future kit releases.

 

May this also serve as a reminder that the wonderful people in Ukraine are heading into their fourth year of a disgraceful, illegal invasion of their country. They have had to contend with death on a daily basis and will continue to do so until they are able to finally rid their country of the aggressor.  

 

Not sure if this delays the debut of the F-86E but CP will be making an F-86 kit announcement in Nuremburg on 27 January."

 

 

Best regards

Gabor

 

 

[Sabrejet]

Due for announcement at today's 75th Nuremberg Toy Fair (Spielwarenmesse), Clear Prop! have released the box art for the "Air National Guard" version of their 1/48 F-86A (Kit No. CP4830). There should be three colour schemes in the kit, including the awesome copper-trimmed 197th FIS example shown on the box art:

 

 

RIP Konstantin Kolobov.