dai phan Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) Hi all, For us who are rivets counters, F86 A/E/F are a word of differences. But for a casual modeler (turn yourself back 30 years), can you make out the NOTICABLE outline differences between the F and the A? I do not think anyone at that stage would mind weather it is an A or F. I want an A because it is never offered and like others, many do not want to bother with resin slats. But since I already did a MK 6 with slats, I wonder if I can tell outline differences bewteen the A and the MK 6 at all. Dai Edited May 15 by dai phan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BWDenver Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 41 minutes ago, dai phan said: EU first? I am in USA. Dai Road trip..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, dai phan said: EU first? I am in USA. Dai Clear Prop company is in Ukraine, it is where they design, manufacture, package the kits. This is where they will release the kit hopefully in June. How it gets around in the world after that is anyone’s guess. Export the packaged kits, customs, transporting abroad, customs again, wholesales companies, transporting overseas, customs again, transporting to distributors, postal office . . . So. . . Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, dai phan said: Hi all, For us who are rivets counters, F86 A/E/F are a word of differences. But for a casual modeler (turn yourself back 30 years), can you make out the NOTICABLE outline differences between the F and the A? I do not think anyone at that stage would mind weather it is an A or F. I want an A because it is never offered and like others, many do not want to bother with resin slats. But since I already did a MK 6 with slats, I wonder if I can tell outline differences bewteen the A and the MK 6 at all. Dai the biggest difference is the H-stab actuator fairings on the E,F, not present on the 'A'. There are a number of smaller differences such as the stabilizers themselves and locations of pitot tubes and wingtip nav lights (to name a couple ). Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 I've done a profile comparison between the Clear Prop! F-86A and the Airfix Sabre 4, and the rear fuselage profile at the joint line is very similar. Not 100% the same but looks close enough that an Sabre 4 aft fuselage graft would allow Sabre 2 or F-86E-1/5 without too much bother. Since the Clear Prop! fuselage parts are so delicate, they wouldn't take much persuasion either. The Airfix parts do lack the finesse of the Clear Prop!, but I thought the same about the Academy/Hasegawa/Revell parts and so far my grafting of various wings onto Airfix fuselages hasn't thrown up anything that would look like glaring mash-up. Another option would be to detach the aft fuselage, install the Academy J47 and then use the Airfix Sabre 4 aft fuselage for Sabre 2 or F-86E-1/5 in a diorama-type display. Or modify the Academy F-86F aft fuselage to represent a Sabre 2 or F-86E-1/5.... Lots of options are now possible. Or wait to see what CP! get up to next... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 5 hours ago, ya-gabor said: Clear Prop company is in Ukraine, it is where they design, manufacture, package the kits. This is where they will release the kit hopefully in June. How it gets around in the world after that is anyone’s guess. Export the packaged kits, customs, transporting abroad, customs again, wholesales companies, transporting overseas, customs again, transporting to distributors, postal office . . . So. . . Best regards Gabor With the upcoming Russian offensive, who knows what will happen in the future. Dai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 5 hours ago, Snowbird3a said: the biggest difference is the H-stab actuator fairings on the E,F, not present on the 'A'. There are a number of smaller differences such as the stabilizers themselves and locations of pitot tubes and wingtip nav lights (to name a couple ). Tony But really nothing major like P-51B and D. Dai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 "nothing major like P-51B and D". I think we have a winner... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 On 5/15/2024 at 2:24 PM, dai phan said: But really nothing major like P-51B and D. Dai yes, I would think the differences are 'major' :), and easily spotted between a F-86A and a F-86F but that's me Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 (edited) Hi all, Anything on release date? I have seen some people already started their builds on other forums. How did they get their kits? Dai Edited June 3 by dai phan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 16 minutes ago, dai phan said: Hi all, Anything on release date? I have seen some people already started their builds on other forums. How did they get their kits? Dai Easy, he has designed it! : ) : ) Best regaerds Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 7 minutes ago, ya-gabor said: Easy, he has designed it! : ) : ) Best regaerds Gabor I see 2 people that are building the kit. Dai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Why dont you ask them? Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 For those who have not seen it, here is a photo or two of the build by Duncan (Sabrejet) borrowed from another forum. Just a note here. the decals are not ready so he used what was available from other sources. Just hope he will show more views of his build here also. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aircal62 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Reading through the discussions about cross kitting the Airfix and Clear Prop F-86 to get an "E" , would it not be easier to use the Airfix F-86F-40 and remove the wing tip extensions to get an "E"? For Clear Prop to do an "E" would require a new fuselage and cockpit parts something which we may see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I think it depends on how accurate you want your "E" to be. The "E" model did not have the "6-3" increased chord wing that was on the late "F" models (and retrofitted to early F and possibly E models). So the one-foot wing tip extensions were not the only difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 (edited) 7 hours ago, aircal62 said: Reading through the discussions about cross kitting the Airfix and Clear Prop F-86 to get an "E" , would it not be easier to use the Airfix F-86F-40 and remove the wing tip extensions to get an "E"? For Clear Prop to do an "E" would require a new fuselage and cockpit parts something which we may see. We're talking about F-86E-1 or -5 (combining CP fwd fuselage and wings with Airfix aft fuselage): the Airfix kit will not give you the correct screen. An F-86E-10, -15 or early F-86F can already be done easily enough by using the Revell/Monogram F-86D wings (if you want slats open) or slicing the Airfix wing about to remove the 6-3 insert. Removing the tip extensions from an F-40 wing gives you a Sabre 6 wing. Edited June 5 by Sabrejet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) On 6/5/2024 at 4:50 AM, ya-gabor said: For those who have not seen it, here is a photo or two of the build by Duncan (Sabrejet) borrowed from another forum. Just a note here. the decals are not ready so he used what was available from other sources. Just hope he will show more views of his build here also. Best regards Gabor Looks like he used the scheme on the decals that I ordered. I am sure other companies will jump in. Dai Edited June 6 by dai phan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted June 8 Author Share Posted June 8 Nearing completion: vee-screen and unique side screens look perfect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 (edited) 12 hours ago, Sabrejet said: Nearing completion: vee-screen and unique side screens look perfect. Looks like a winner here. A definitive kit of the A. Looks like considerable sanding is needed to flair the windshield to the fuse? Dai Edited June 9 by dai phan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted June 9 Author Share Posted June 9 No; minimal sanding and filler: CP's design in this area ensures a smooth transition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillS Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Bring it! Should be able to order it direct from CP! I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miramar Road Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Your model looks fantastic Sabrejet! I'm definitely on board now with buying this kit. First, I'll wait and see what decal options CP! or other decal producers will make for this kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeffreyK Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 I love the model for the windscreen part alone, looks splendid! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 I've posted an RFI on Britmodeller: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235141596-clear-prop-f-86a-in-148/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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