Ben Brown Posted August 5, 2024 Share Posted August 5, 2024 My biggest complaint was the windscreen. I never thought the shape of the center section was quite right. They also had to send me two extras before they sent one that was properly cured so it wasn’t sticky and didn’t have air bubbles. Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeffreyK Posted August 5, 2024 Share Posted August 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Ben Brown said: My biggest complaint was the windscreen. I never thought the shape of the center section was quite right. They also had to send me two extras before they sent one that was properly cured so it wasn’t sticky and didn’t have air bubbles. Ben You had something to criticise and were NOT blacklisted??? Wow! I mean I generally loved their products, especially the subject matter, but their business conduct was less than questionable, both with customers and their own team... J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted August 6, 2024 Author Share Posted August 6, 2024 6 hours ago, Ben Brown said: My biggest complaint was the windscreen. I never thought the shape of the center section was quite right. They also had to send me two extras before they sent one that was properly cured so it wasn’t sticky and didn’t have air bubbles. Ben 100% correct on the screen; it is a vee-shape, but nowhere near as pronounced as they modelled it. Luckily Clear Prop! aced that part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted August 6, 2024 Share Posted August 6, 2024 8 hours ago, JeffreyK said: You had something to criticise and were NOT blacklisted??? Wow! I mean I generally loved their products, especially the subject matter, but their business conduct was less than questionable, both with customers and their own team... J Nah, I still ended up on it. Just not for the F-86. 😄 Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dai phan Posted August 6, 2024 Share Posted August 6, 2024 There are some for sale on Ebay from Ukraine for 106 USD plus shipping. Way overboard in my view. Dai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BWDenver Posted August 6, 2024 Share Posted August 6, 2024 3 hours ago, Ben Brown said: Nah, I still ended up on it. Just not for the F-86. 😄 Ben Even Dave's friends eventually ended up on his blacklist, after I moved to Colorado he stopped taking my calls..... Brayn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted August 6, 2024 Author Share Posted August 6, 2024 22 minutes ago, BWDenver said: Even Dave's friends eventually ended up on his blacklist, after I moved to Colorado he stopped taking my calls..... Brayn This is all news to me: I hadn't realised all this stuff was going on. I was probably blacklisted in absentia anyway since I was critical of the windshield and speed brake inaccuracies on the Cutting Edge conversion set. Oops. And I never even knew. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BWDenver Posted August 6, 2024 Share Posted August 6, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sabrejet said: This is all news to me: I hadn't realised all this stuff was going on. I was probably blacklisted in absentia anyway since I was critical of the windshield and speed brake inaccuracies on the Cutting Edge conversion set. Oops. And I never even knew. There was a guy named Potts who was a Navy pilot. He supplied a lot of stuff to Dave. I did a lot of his bomb and missile patterns. When Potts retired he cut him off basically saying: Cut him off, Potts is retiring and can't give us anything else. Real prince of a guy... Edited August 6, 2024 by BWDenver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted August 6, 2024 Author Share Posted August 6, 2024 45 minutes ago, BWDenver said: There was a guy named Potts who was a Navy pilot. He supplied a lot of stuff to Dave. I did a lot of his bomb and missile patterns. When Potts retired he cut him off basically saying: Cut him off, Potts is retiring and can't give us anything else. Real prince of a guy... Classy. I'm glad I avoided this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BWDenver Posted August 6, 2024 Share Posted August 6, 2024 2 hours ago, Sabrejet said: Classy. I'm glad I avoided this. I had Sunday breakfast with Dave for several years. We'd talk about his projects, future releases and patterns I could help him with. When I moved to Colorado, he stopped taking my calls. As I couldn't help him anymore... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeffreyK Posted August 7, 2024 Share Posted August 7, 2024 ...but it's everyone around him who stole HIS joy... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BWDenver Posted August 7, 2024 Share Posted August 7, 2024 Sooooo true! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeneK Posted August 7, 2024 Share Posted August 7, 2024 15 hours ago, JeffreyK said: ...but it's everyone around him who stole HIS joy... You beat me to that one. Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CF104 Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 As much as we all like to dislike Dave Klaus, I think we can all agree that this new Sabre is very much one to like. I just placed my order for one with all of the goodies. I'm more of a Canadair Sabre 5/6 kinda modeler but this one looks too good to pass by. Might do a side-by-side build of this with a Hasegawa F-40 built up as the Vintage Wings Hawk One Sabre (Canadair Mk.5 23314, restored with F-40 wing). Cheers, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jetdog Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 My 2 kits arrived today in Ohio- All I can say is wow, and a big thank you to Duncan and Clear Prop for helping to make an accurate rendition of this historic aircraft possible! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 Niiiice. Now where is my 1/72 scale version? And my Willie Fudd?🤔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted August 13, 2024 Author Share Posted August 13, 2024 2 hours ago, Jetdog said: My 2 kits arrived today in Ohio- All I can say is wow, and a big thank you to Duncan and Clear Prop for helping to make an accurate rendition of this historic aircraft possible! Well now all you've got to do is build them! I hope you enjoy 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeneK Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 9 hours ago, Paul Boyer said: Now where is my 1/72 scale version? I'm also REALLy looking forward to those kits! In 1/48 -- it's too bad that Clear Prop didn't put all the wing parts on one (or two) sprues ... and made those available for ordering separately. Lots of applications to existing kits including the D, E, Early F, and Canadian Sabres. In 1/72 -- maybe a different sprue arrangement? (but I doubt it). How great would it be if Clear Prop offered Overtrees??? Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jon Krol Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 9 hours ago, Paul Boyer said: Niiiice. Now where is my 1/72 scale version? And my Willie Fudd?🤔 WF-1 Yes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted August 13, 2024 Author Share Posted August 13, 2024 2 hours ago, GeneK said: I'm also REALLy looking forward to those kits! In 1/48 -- it's too bad that Clear Prop didn't put all the wing parts on one (or two) sprues ... and made those available for ordering separately. Lots of applications to existing kits including the D, E, Early F, and Canadian Sabres. In 1/72 -- maybe a different sprue arrangement? (but I doubt it). How great would it be if Clear Prop offered Overtrees??? Gene K I'll pass it on 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CF104 Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 5 hours ago, GeneK said: I'm also REALLy looking forward to those kits! In 1/48 -- it's too bad that Clear Prop didn't put all the wing parts on one (or two) sprues ... and made those available for ordering separately. Lots of applications to existing kits including the D, E, Early F, and Canadian Sabres. In 1/72 -- maybe a different sprue arrangement? (but I doubt it). How great would it be if Clear Prop offered Overtrees??? Gene K As far as the Canadair Sabre goes, the kit wing would only be good for the Mk.1 thru Mk.4. The Mk.5 had the 6-3 hard wing(later converted to slats) and the Mk.6 had the slatted 6-3 wing. Cheers, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted August 13, 2024 Author Share Posted August 13, 2024 (edited) 56 minutes ago, CF104 said: As far as the Canadair Sabre goes, the kit wing would only be good for the Mk.1 thru Mk.4. The Mk.5 had the 6-3 hard wing(later converted to slats) and the Mk.6 had the slatted 6-3 wing. Cheers, John Late Sabre 4s were manufactured with the 6-3 hard-edge (and most early a/c retrofitted). Early Sabre 6s also had the hard-edge 6-3 wing. Edited August 13, 2024 by Sabrejet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CF104 Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 Just now, Sabrejet said: Early Sabre 5s had the slatted, narrow-chord wing; later aircraft had the 6-3 hard-edge (and most early a/c retrofitted). The broad-chord, slatted, short-span was introduced on the Sabre 6. That's contrary to the information I have, both photographic and written. Canadair Sabres c/n 701 thru c/n 1400 had the 6-3 hard wing and c/n 1401 onwards had the 6-3 slatted wing right from the factory. This includes the last 90 Sabre 4's that went to the RAF so they had a mixed fleet of slatted original wing and 6-3 hard wing. Sabre 4 c/n 701 was RAF XD780 and had the 6-3 hard wing as referenced in this accident report. https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/148705 The RAF may have retrofitted the 6-3 hard wing to more of their earlier Mk.4's but that's only a guess on my part. Sabre Mk.5 23001 thru 23370 were all delivered with the 6-3 hard wing. Sabre Mk.6 23371 thru 23610 were also delivered with the 6-3 hard wing with most being modified to the 6-3 slatted wing at a later date. Sabre Mk.6 23611 thru 23752 were delivered with the 6-3 slatted wing. All Canadair Sabres had a wing span of 37.12'. There was never a short span 6-3 slatted wing. I'm not at all versed on what the Luftwaffe did with their Mk.6's but they definitely had a mixture of 6-3 slatted and 6-3 hard wing. Might just be that they bolted the slats up on the 6-3 slatted wing to keep them from popping out at inopportune times. I was being very generic regarding the Mk.5/6 in my last post so a correction would be that the kit wing would be good for the Canadair Sabre Mk.1 thru Mk.4 up to c/n 700. Sabre Mk.4(c/n701 thru 790), Mk.5 and Mk.6 through to the end of production had a mixture of the 6-3 hard wing and slatted wing. Cheers, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabrejet Posted August 13, 2024 Author Share Posted August 13, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, CF104 said: That's contrary to the information I have, both photographic and written. John, See my edit: I think your post coincided with my self-edit 🙂 Edited August 13, 2024 by Sabrejet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CreepyGuy Posted August 14, 2024 Share Posted August 14, 2024 I received my kits yesterday! I can not wait to get cracking on a Wis Air National Guard F-86A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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