dsfm29 Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 When it comes to canopies, i feel that this piece on the aircraft can either make or break your model. Here is the trouble i run into when i'm installing hte company. First I know when I use certain glues, it would fog up the canopy, but yet these glue from the tubes provide the strength i feel comfortable with. Yet when i use something like testors glue for canopies, it isnt strong enough but it doesnt fog up the canopy. And what happens if there is a seam between the canopy and the body itself, how would u get rid of it? I ran into these problems on my last project f-4g. It was very frustrating to say the least. So I would love to hear the different techniques you guys might have for these problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volzj Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Couple options but here's one I use. First, install the windscreen (before airbrushing but after finishing the cockpit), with a small amount of Tenax. You'll have a good strong bond (plastic to plastic) and you shouldn't have any crazing or fogging. Then, to fill any gaps used Tamiya puty, Bondo, etc.. thinned with acetone and carefully brush into the seam. You will likely need several coats, but you also should not need to sand. Works real well. Here's an example... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urloony Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 great advise above, also don't be afraid to sand your canopy to get it to fit just right and if you do get any fogging you can remove your canopy and sand it off, apply "modeler's holy water" aka future floor polish, to remove any scratches. Once canopy is in place mask it off and paint it with the rest of your model. When you remove the mask it will be "as one" with the model. Now go in peace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 And if you do treat the canopy with Future as mentioned above (dip the entire canopy in a bowl of Future, remove, place on a paper towel to wick off the excess and cover with another bowl to prevent dust from getting on it as it dries) you can glue it with just about anything, including super glue, without it fogging up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim H Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I use Bob Smith Industries Super Gold + for my canopies. It is an odorless CA and will not fog the clear pieces. BSI Super Gold + Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dsfm29 Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 What kind of glue of Tenax considered as? For me i use the usual testors tube glue. I hardly use super glue, only when working with resin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul T Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Tenax 7 is a liquid (as thin as water) glue,usually applied by fine brush or better yet,a glass applicator. The glue is applied and through capillaryaction,flow into the join and seams.It also dries very fast(evaporates actually) and welds the plastic.GREAT stuff. Paul T Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dsfm29 Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 when you dip the canopy into the future, do u need to dilute it? or just pour the future into a bowl, and then straight dip the canopy into the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Mullen Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 (edited) when you dip the canopy into the future, do u need to dilute it? or just pour the future into a bowl, and then straight dip the canopy into the future. Just pour an amount sufficient to cover the canopy into a small sealable container, dip the canopy, remove and touch the edges on a kitchen towel to wick off the excess and then place in another sealable container on a piece of clean kitchen towel, close the lid and put to one side for a day. The sealable containers I use are Bacofoil small portion trays with a lid. HTH Edited October 23, 2004 by Andy Mullen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Khan Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 An epoxy is always an option too. It dries clear, but you have to mix the resin and the hardener together. It'll hold well enough for whatever filling and sanding you might need to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sam747 Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 All of the above techniques are very good ones, but i have learned over the years that using tube glue could be very frustrating and results are not good atall, for building basic airframe i use CA glue and liquid weld bond glue, its good combination. As for clear parts i give them Future bath and once dried then i glue them in with Humbrol's Clear Fix!, works excellent for me and i dont have to worry about fogging on clear parts also. Dont use CA glue on clear parts as it would most likely cloud or fog the clear part unless you are going to paint over it. Sameer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwilliamson Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 I have been using Future as a glue as well for canopies. After dipping in Future, let dry, mask, paint, etc and the canopy is ready, I place the canopy in position, load a fine brush with future and touch it to the seam (as you would a wash). I let dry and repeat. This gives a good bond with no hazing. JOE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RJ Tucker Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Look in the "Tool'n'Tips" section of ARC. Good stuff about canopies there. Yeah, I wrote one; insightful and provocative wasn’t it?! :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dsfm29 Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 wow, seems like future has a million uses. can be used as a glue to shining up a canopy. haha this stuff is great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Mullen Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 wow, seems like future has a million uses. can be used as a glue to shining up a canopy. haha this stuff is great! Yes someone has even had the idea to use it on your floor. What Whacky Idea Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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