B2Blain Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Does anyone know of one besides Flory? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Garelli Posted October 30, 2024 Share Posted October 30, 2024 Vallejo makes acrylic panel line washes, I have tried them, but in general never had a good experience with acrylic washes. You need to be careful how you clean it up, if you are not using an enamel or lacquer clear before applying the wash then you may damage the paint coat while cleaning up any excess wash. Since I paint in acrylics now I only use enamel or oil washes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airmechaja Posted October 31, 2024 Share Posted October 31, 2024 Bottle of black and white Tempera paint. Thin with distilled water and mix your own shade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFan24 Posted November 1, 2024 Share Posted November 1, 2024 On 10/29/2024 at 7:14 PM, B2Blain said: Does anyone know of one besides Flory? So Ultimate Modeling makes acrylic clay wash, which is similar to Flory wash. If you are having a problem obtaining Flory wash from the UK, they have a US distributer now. As far as acrylic washes: Vallejo makes acrylic washes, and several fantasy/figure painting companies also produce acrylic washes. Regarding Vallejo washes, this question came up in the Facebook modeling group I moderate. I have several bottles of the Vallejo washes. At first, I couldn't figure out how to get them to work. I would apply them over a gloss coat and then let dry. No matter what I did after to remove them after they were dried, nothing worked. I reached out to Vallejo and they said to use 50/50 thinner and water mix. I find their thinner is like acid to most gloss varnishes. I tried it on Ak gauzy agent, tamiya X-22, aqua gloss, etc. It ate through the gauzy agent and tamiya x-22. The washes seem to work on the Aqua gloss as long as you give the Aqua gloss several hours to cure. You can remove the wash using the 50/50 combo over the Aqua gloss and the washes actually come off instead of staining the paint. I reached out Pablo Albornoz of Spartan Scale Models, he is in charge of Vallejo aviation division. He shared that you need to gloss the model with Vallejo premium gloss. You need to do 2 separate coats. First coat followed by a second coat, 4 hours later. Then let everything dry for minimum of 24 hours. You can then add the wash and remove it after it is dried with no issues. Honestly, I can wait that long. I prefer to use high quality oil paints. They work faster, you can remove them easily if you mess up, and produce great results. Here is an in-depth video from Pablo demonstrating how to use their washes for airplane modeling. He also has a Instagram page demonstrating how to use Vallejo washes (don't know how to link it here). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airmechaja Posted November 2, 2024 Share Posted November 2, 2024 VALLEJO - Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chukw Posted November 2, 2024 Share Posted November 2, 2024 (edited) You can sand artists' pastel sticks of any color to make a great panel wash with water and a bit of soap. Apply to a gloss or satin finish, let dry and wipe away the excess- no fuss! Use the straight dry pigment over a matte finish to apply streaks, etc. Edited November 4, 2024 by chukw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B2Blain Posted November 4, 2024 Author Share Posted November 4, 2024 Thank you all for your suggestions! I used Florys when it came out, but have been using Tamiya's accenter recently. It's much more effective than water based. I've noticed that when I use it on Gunze's Mr. Color line of laquer paints mineral spirits will remove some of the base coat. It's a little better when I use a softer cloth. Not sure if Mr. Color reacts to mineral spirits or if it's getting to the enamel primer coat that I put down. I don't notice this with Tamiya. I thought that maybe I should try a water based product for the panel lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin_sam_2000 Posted November 5, 2024 Share Posted November 5, 2024 I use a mix of the tamiya panel accenter and just a simple black tempera/water mix. I usually use future as a gloss so using water based washes doesn't affect anything. just depends on what part of the airframe I am looking to highlight. Sean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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