Tariff Impact on Our Hobby

[Scooby]

21 hours ago, Curt B said:

Well, you’ve stated the obvious, but that’s fine.  The point I was trying to make when I started this thread was more specific on which products might be most affected.  With the government oscillations as they are, that may be an impossible task. 

Most products shipped into the US will be affected, because most hobby products are imported to the US. Since Trump has placed tarrifs on most of the world, most products will increase at least 25%.

[Scooby]

1 hour ago, Nathant said:

If I was Canadian I would be more worried about the talk of them joining the EU than becoming the 51s state. That ship is going down!!

Glad you aren’t Canadian. One thing this has done is united our country to the understanding we don’t need to rely on the US for goods anymore. Our grocery stores are stripped of US products. Our fruit and vegetables are now from both Canada and Mexico. There are apps to scan products to warn us if they originate in the US. Those products are not selling and aren’t being restocked.

 

At least the EU are trusted friends. And it isn’t only Canada who have lost the trust of the US. The rest of the world feels the same. Except for maybe Russia, India, and North Korea.

[YF65_CH53E]

1 hour ago, Scooby said:

Glad you aren’t Canadian. One thing this has done is united our country to the understanding we don’t need to rely on the US for goods anymore. Our grocery stores are stripped of US products. Our fruit and vegetables are now from both Canada and Mexico. There are apps to scan products to warn us if they originate in the US. Those products are not selling and aren’t being restocked.

 

At least the EU are trusted friends. And it isn’t only Canada who have lost the trust of the US. The rest of the world feels the same. Except for maybe Russia, India, and North Korea.

So this escalated so fast.  EU is "trusted friends"??  I'd ask the UK how they feel about that....So all Canadians have lost the trust of the US?  I highly doubt that statement.  As with all politics...this too shall pass.  Our friends to the North will continue to be our friends to the North.  If Canadians don't feel like traveling to the US for vacations or anything fine so be it.  if that is really true...because I happen to own a condo in Maui, and NONE of my Canadian long time renters have cancelled their reservations in 2025 NONE!  We all have been going there Canadian and Seattle folks since 1977.  Our families have grown up together.  So be careful with the "vast generalizations" of "Glad youre not Canadian" etc.  And you certainly do not know what the rest of the world thinks....because if you're only watching "certain" news outlets then you only get "Certain" news.

 

I guess since I grew up on the boarder maybe I am different.  I have many relationships with other modelers and former Canadian Military guys I served with that are just fine right now.  No...I do not like the turmoil our current President is causing, but I am not throwing the baby out with the bath water over it.  His other poilicies we sorely need to get our own house in order before we can solve other house issues. 

 

OBTW - cheap shot at comparing Canadian aid to Isreali aid - not by you Scobby, but another poster.

 

Trying to keep it civil.  I respect alls opinions and look forward to reading them as I am not in just one "media bubble"!  I wore the cloth of my country for 34 years so that right would be defended.

 

Random rant over.  going back to the bench.....

[phantom]

Canadians in general still have many American friends, and many have family in the states. The issue MOST Canadians have is not MOST of the American people. The issue we have is the policy, outright lies and insults from the current American leadership.

 

Back to the main point of the thread, tariffs, one thing I have noticed is when selling stuff. In my case  decals. The postage is taking a lot longer to reach American customers then in the past. Almost a week longer, I think packages are being delayed at US customs. So far no one has mentioned any extra tariff charges on stuff I have sold. Has anyone else noticed any changes yet?

Edited March 18, 2025 by phantom

[habu2]

8 hours ago, YF65_CH53E said:

OBTW - cheap shot at comparing Canadian aid to Isreali aid - not by you Scobby, but another poster.

 

You misunderstood my statement. I was trying to make the point that the financial aid provided to Canada is trivial when compared to financial aid provided to other countries.  The country names were stated for context not judgement.  It was not a criticism of Israel. That's a completely different topic. 

[Scooby]

20 hours ago, YF65_CH53E said:

So this escalated so fast.  EU is "trusted friends"??  I'd ask the UK how they feel about that....So all Canadians have lost the trust of the US?  I highly doubt that statement.  As with all politics...this too shall pass.  Our friends to the North will continue to be our friends to the North.  If Canadians don't feel like traveling to the US for vacations or anything fine so be it.  if that is really true...because I happen to own a condo in Maui, and NONE of my Canadian long time renters have cancelled their reservations in 2025 NONE!  We all have been going there Canadian and Seattle folks since 1977.  Our families have grown up together.  So be careful with the "vast generalizations" of "Glad youre not Canadian" etc.  And you certainly do not know what the rest of the world thinks....because if you're only watching "certain" news outlets then you only get "Certain" news.

 

I guess since I grew up on the boarder maybe I am different.  I have many relationships with other modelers and former Canadian Military guys I served with that are just fine right now.  No...I do not like the turmoil our current President is causing, but I am not throwing the baby out with the bath water over it.  His other poilicies we sorely need to get our own house in order before we can solve other house issues. 

 

OBTW - cheap shot at comparing Canadian aid to Isreali aid - not by you Scobby, but another poster.

 

Trying to keep it civil.  I respect alls opinions and look forward to reading them as I am not in just one "media bubble"!  I wore the cloth of my country for 34 years so that right would be defended.

 

Random rant over.  going back to the bench.....

 

You clearly have no idea how upset Canadians are over the threats to our sovereignty. We are infuriated over these threats. And you must be living a very sheltered life if you don't know the rest of the world has also lost trust with the US, Trump has turned on his allies.

 

A 25% decrease of Canadian travellers to the US is significant. I expect those numbers to increase, I bet many people had non-refundable tickets, so they could not cancel.

 

I served 25 years in the Canadian military, I served alongside US forces in conflict, I have many friends who are in the US who are equally upset with the attacks on our nation. 159 of my colleagues didn't come home from Afghanistan. A war we joined to support the US after 911.

 

My late uncle is a retired US Army L/Col, he served two tours in Vietnam. He was the curator of the Fort Derussy Military Museum and the Chief Historian for the CICPAF. He'd be embarrassed if he knew what was going on now. He is interred at Punchbowl. 

 

The person who I said, "I am glad you are not Canadian," also stated in his post about us becoming the 51 state. Yes, we can trust the EU more than the US.

 

Our grocery stores have undergone significant changes, Canadian goods are well marked. US goods are being boycotted, I think most are off our shelves now. We have apps to identify where the goods originate. We only have fresh fruit and vegetables from Mexico and Canada. 

 

This is the thanks we get for being trusted allies for over 150 years?

 

[Scooby]

20 hours ago, YF65_CH53E said:

So this escalated so fast.  EU is "trusted friends"??  I'd ask the UK how they feel about that....So all Canadians have lost the trust of the US?  I highly doubt that statement.  As with all politics...this too shall pass.  Our friends to the North will continue to be our friends to the North.  If Canadians don't feel like traveling to the US for vacations or anything fine so be it.  if that is really true...because I happen to own a condo in Maui, and NONE of my Canadian long time renters have cancelled their reservations in 2025 NONE!  We all have been going there Canadian and Seattle folks since 1977.  Our families have grown up together.  So be careful with the "vast generalizations" of "Glad youre not Canadian" etc.  And you certainly do not know what the rest of the world thinks....because if you're only watching "certain" news outlets then you only get "Certain" news.

 

I guess since I grew up on the boarder maybe I am different.  I have many relationships with other modelers and former Canadian Military guys I served with that are just fine right now.  No...I do not like the turmoil our current President is causing, but I am not throwing the baby out with the bath water over it.  His other poilicies we sorely need to get our own house in order before we can solve other house issues. 

 

OBTW - cheap shot at comparing Canadian aid to Isreali aid - not by you Scobby, but another poster.

 

Trying to keep it civil.  I respect alls opinions and look forward to reading them as I am not in just one "media bubble"!  I wore the cloth of my country for 34 years so that right would be defended.

 

Random rant over.  going back to the bench.....

 

You appear to live in the Seattle area. During the confusion of the 911 attacks, when it wasn't certain what was going on. My fighter squadron was getting ready to deploy to protect the skies over Seattle, we were assigned that city and had been pre-planning our deployment. 24 hours when it became clear who attacked, we were stood down and deployed to Comox for Quick Reaction Duty instead.

[GW8345]

On 3/16/2025 at 10:29 PM, habu2 said:

 

Even using the highest annual amount given to Canada, that's about 1% of US foreign aid given to Israel every year. So, what's your point?

The point I was making wasn't the amount, it was the fact that the US gave foreign aid to Canada.

 

Why did the US give foreign aid to a country that is part of the G7? (and I'm not buying that it "mostly" went to US companies operation inside Canada)

[GW8345]

Kind of funny how no one has addressed the loop-sided tariff Canada imposed on US products.

 

Also Canada, who do you think is leading the fight to keep the Suez Canal open, what forces do you have over there helping to keep the sea lanes open?

 

 

[YF65_CH53E]

Ok, 

 

I do not live in a sheltered world my friend.  Thank you for your service to your country.  25 years is a career and my 34 years was a career.   I've deployed to the desert more times than I can count.  And I can assure you  I have buried my share of my Marines on foreign soil. Do not try and tell me I do not understand how our allies work in combat.  I have seen my fair share.  Lets see....16 deployments.  Thats enough for me to understand how fighting along side allied countries works.

 

However democracy put this guy in office.  In four years democracy will put someone else in office.  We have the mid terms in less than 2 years as well.  So we will see.  I am not trying to change your mind on how you feel about the USA.  Take our products off your shelves, use your app good for you.

 

But do not tell me I am in a sheltered world.  Do not even hint at the fact I do not undestand sacrafice of brothers in arms during war.  Of any Country.

 

Again, your right to say what you want.  My right to answer.  In the beginning of this thread they said it was good as long as no personal attacks.  I do not appreciate being told I am in a sheltered world when I voluntairly joined my countries military and went around the globe for 34 years and learned all about how the world works.

[Scooby]

33 minutes ago, YF65_CH53E said:

Ok, 

 

I do not live in a sheltered world my friend.  Thank you for your service to your country.  25 years is a career and my 34 years was a career.   I've deployed to the desert more times than I can count.  And I can assure you  I have buried my share of my Marines on foreign soil. Do not try and tell me I do not understand how our allies work in combat.  I have seen my fair share.  Lets see....16 deployments.  Thats enough for me to understand how fighting along side allied countries works.

 

However democracy put this guy in office.  In four years democracy will put someone else in office.  We have the mid terms in less than 2 years as well.  So we will see.  I am not trying to change your mind on how you feel about the USA.  Take our products off your shelves, use your app good for you.

 

But do not tell me I am in a sheltered world.  Do not even hint at the fact I do not undestand sacrafice of brothers in arms during war.  Of any Country.

 

Again, your right to say what you want.  My right to answer.  In the beginning of this thread they said it was good as long as no personal attacks.  I do not appreciate being told I am in a sheltered world when I voluntairly joined my countries military and went around the globe for 34 years and learned all about how the world works.

You don’t appear to understand that there is no greater threat than the threat of a countries sovereignty, or existence. Trump constantly calls Canada the 51st State, he refers to our PM as a Governor. He speaks of taking allied countries by force.

 

You were angered that I stated to someone I was happy they were not a Canadian. Not once have you stated it is wrong to threaten Canada’s sovereignty.

 

Clearly you haven’t learnt anything from your deployment’s. Not once did I say you don’t understand sacrifice. You live a sheltered life if you don’t see what Trump is doing to the world.
 

I’ve deployed to the Gulf, Afghanistan, Haiti, Kosovo, Balkans, and throughout Africa. In those locations I’ve witnessed strife, famine, atrocities, conflict, and losses of freedom. I

appreciate what I have in Canada and I do not like seeing my country’s freedom threatened.

 

 I have good reason to be angry, my home is under threat.

[Scooby]

1 hour ago, GW8345 said:

Kind of funny how no one has addressed the loop-sided tariff Canada imposed on US products.

 

Because they don’t they exist. Amongst developed countries, Canada is towards to bottom of the list for tariffs rates, at 2.4%.

 

Trump quotes high tariffs on dairy products. The truth is, the US pays 0% on dairy imports to Canada. The USMCA has agreed upon caps for importing dairy to Canada. This is to protect Canadian farmers, to keep them in business. If the US exceeds those caps, they pay high tarriffs. The USMCA doesn’t exceed the cap, so they don’t pay tarriffs.

 

International Trade Courts have ruled this agreement is fair.

 

Trump signed this agreement. Trump called it the best trade deal ever.

 

The majority of trade between Canada/US is tariff free.

[mike_45]

Off the rails we go...

[Nathant]

2 hours ago, Scooby said:

 

You clearly have no idea how upset Canadians are over the threats to our sovereignty. We are infuriated over these threats. And you must be living a very sheltered life if you don't know the rest of the world has also lost trust with the US, Trump has turned on his allies.

 

A 25% decrease of Canadian travellers to the US is significant. I expect those numbers to increase, I bet many people had non-refundable tickets, so they could not cancel.

 

I served 25 years in the Canadian military, I served alongside US forces in conflict, I have many friends who are in the US who are equally upset with the attacks on our nation. 159 of my colleagues didn't come home from Afghanistan. A war we joined to support the US after 911.

 

My late uncle is a retired US Army L/Col, he served two tours in Vietnam. He was the curator of the Fort Derussy Military Museum and the Chief Historian for the CICPAF. He'd be embarrassed if he knew what was going on now. He is interred at Punchbowl. 

 

The person who I said, "I am glad you are not Canadian," also stated in his post about us becoming the 51 state. Yes, we can trust the EU more than the US.

 

Our grocery stores have undergone significant changes, Canadian goods are well marked. US goods are being boycotted, I think most are off our shelves now. We have apps to identify where the goods originate. We only have fresh fruit and vegetables from Mexico and Canada. 

 

This is the thanks we get for being trusted allies for over 150 years?

 

My focus was more on the EU’s failed project of using Ukrainian lives as a bulwark against a perceived Russian threat that doesn’t exist. The minute Canada wants the war in Ukraine to end, the EU will turn on you also. I think Trump’s rhetoric on Canada and Greenland is pointless and not helpful. 

[MoFo]

Weird to see so many Americans parroting Kremlin propaganda.  You guys really need to do a better job vetting where you get information.  Pro tip: the more a news source tells you how truthful or patriotic it is, the less likely it is to be either one of those things.

[longblack]

On 2/5/2025 at 3:12 AM, flanker27 said:

I am wondering the same, how would tariff affect ebay? does it mean if we buy from a seller in China the buyer has to pay tariff on top of the sales price through ebay? or it will be held in custom till the buyer pays for the tariff to get it delivered?

I'm in Australia, where we have our own issues with tariffs and others leaders. 

I usually buy online but never from American vendors retail or private as they without fail have postage rates higher than the stated value of the item itself sometimes more than double. eg On ebay a kit priced at $30 Au will likely have a postage cost of $50-60+ Au attached.....so no deal. so I too wonder if and how that would affect ebay trade...or Amazon for that matter?

I dont often buy from China as they use their own carriers here who are useless. In any event while shipping is often free the quality is more often than not appalling and very slow even if the item is stated as being "in Australia"

[WymanV]

1 hour ago, MoFo said:

Weird to see so many Americans parroting Kremlin propaganda.  You guys really need to do a better job vetting where you get information.  Pro tip: the more a news source tells you how truthful or patriotic it is, the less likely it is to be either one of those things.

 

 

...aaaaaaaand...mic drop.

[YF65_CH53E]

I have learned plenty from my deployments.  The other thing I have learned is to know when to say when.  You think we are parroting Kremlin propaganda ....wow, vetting where I get my information?

 

You get away with calling names and telling us we are liers. 

 

I never once got personal.  I guess the mods will kick me off the forum.

 

Yes I will drop the mic.....on this conversation.  It was civil up to this point.

 

[karl h]

judging by a lot of statements i am not so sure about the other person in four years....

[ExchefAndy]

I just hate the divide that it creates between us, when it creeps into our hobby... it sucks.

The tariffs will affect everyone in some way, however small or large. It waits to be seen.

Our arguments here should be about what shade of grey or how many rivets on a kit.

The Internet was meant to bring us all together, not drive us apart.

 Everyone has an opinion on what's going on, lets not destroy friendships over it

Andy

[GW8345]

6 hours ago, MoFo said:

Weird to see so many Americans parroting Kremlin propaganda.  You guys really need to do a better job vetting where you get information.  Pro tip: the more a news source tells you how truthful or patriotic it is, the less likely it is to be either one of those things.

So anyone who doesn't recite/agree with your opinion is parroting Kremlin propaganda and we have to get our news from your approved source, sounds kind of communist if you ask me.

[johncrow]

14 minutes ago, GW8345 said:

So anyone who doesn't recite/agree with your opinion is parroting Kremlin propaganda and we have to get our news from your approved source, sounds kind of communist if you ask me.

 

 

That is not at all what was said. One is absolutely free to parrot Kremlin propaganda. One does not have to get news from anyone's approved source. But one should be aware of where their news and information originates. 

[ST0RM]

Nice thread... 🙄

[GW8345]

19 minutes ago, johncrow said:

 

 

That is not at all what was said. One is absolutely free to parrot Kremlin propaganda. One does not have to get news from anyone's approved source. But one should be aware of where their news and information originates. 

So anyone with an opposing view is parroting Kremlin propaganda 🤔. 

[Curt B]

Moderators, please lock this thread.  I was foolish to think, when I started it, that it could/would remain focused.  My apologies to anyone who is/was offended by the ensuing discussion…