B-1B Builders

[B-1 Nut]

I have no idea what to say.

That is stunning....... amazing........ marvelous........ awe inspiring.

A new benchmark has been set for 1/48 Bones.

Outstanding!

[LZ82]

Take a bow my brother...this act simply can’t be followed, stunning effort!!!

[utley]

6. Wing housing

7. Other details

if i may ask, how did you form the slat shelf? ive been trying to do this for months! i also like what you did with the flaps, ive been butting my head against a wall over them...now i know how to tackle them. awesome plane!

[KRI76]

What a phenomenal Bone you've got there!

Stunning and amazing at least! Congratulations!!!!!

I've been working on a 1/72 Monogram kit since too much time now. I am (as utley...) stuck on the wings that I also want to represent with flaps, slats and spoilers deployed. I think yours look just great! And the wing glove compartment as well! Oh, so much details you managed to stuck into your model, really really awesome!

/Kristian

[CzechCutter]

Thank You all for Your opinion. I have been working on this model for two years.

utley:

Slat shell - I don't know exactly, what do you mean by that. Is that front part of the wing under slats?

(Sorry for poor English)

[CzechCutter]

My mistake - shelf . I've lost my eyes. Now, It's clear.

Edited November 24, 2010 by CzechCutter

[CzechCutter]

Slat shelf - very tedious work. This is brief list of steps, which I made:

1. I fixed wing thickness
   
2. I cut off slat
   
3. I made ribs and slat mechanics housing from 2mm plastic sheets
   
4. I grinded them to required profile (cca 1.1mm under surface of wing)
   
5. I made notches from 1.5mm U-profile over mechanics housing
   
6. between notches I made heat molded panels from 1mm sheets
   
7. and another grinding, grinding ...
   
8. polishing, riveting, polishing - finished
   

I have only one picture I made during this work:

Edited November 24, 2010 by CzechCutter

[utley]

that is just awesome! i may break a wing apart this week and try that...got so many junk wings to use. another question...how did you make the actuator links? they look like lathed metal.

[CzechCutter]

Actuator links - chirurgical needles (1.2, 0.9, 0.55 for flaps, 0.9, 0.55 for slats ) with rings (0.1mm copper wire)

I found fantastic tubes for modellers - Albion alloys (too late for me).

P.S.: I forgot - My Bone has LED illumination (position lights and stroboscopic lights)

Edited November 24, 2010 by CzechCutter

[Jose Maria]

Absolutely STUNNING work you did CzechCutter, one of the most incredibly Bones I've ever seen.

Just one doubt, can you explain me how did you managed the wing pivot? I noticed that you ripped off a section, but you inserted some material to give some strench to that area and I'm very interested to do the same to my model, this makes much more easier to attach and disattach (these words exists??? :wacko:

Please, let me know about this, I'll apreciate too much any help you can give me.

Congratulations, you worked very hard I'm sure, and this is one of the most impressive Bone models I've ever seen.

Cheers

JM

[CzechCutter]

Jose Maria: One picture is better than thousand words.

It is very important to choose proper direction of pivot lock for easy removal of the wing. There is a lot of grinding and and testing till the wing fits to the housing.

[Jose Maria]

Hi dude,

Thanks a lot!! I completely understood the idea, btw, very good idea! I intend to buid my model right out of the box, without the flaps and slats detailing. First, I dont have the skills to produce such a nice work like you did, and second, I dont have enough space to store this model with wings fully spread.

My idea is to use something like you did, just to make things easier during the paint job, with wings separated, and in case of moving the model, it is pretty easier to move him with the wings out.

So, congratuations to you by your lovely work, and thanks a lot for sharing your idea with us.

Regards,

JM

Edited November 25, 2010 by Jose Maria

[CzechCutter]

Hi,

Has anybody an idea, where to get good 1/48 JDAMs GBU-31/w3 (with BLU-109) for my Bone? I tried Shawn Hull, but he has no piece at this time.

I just don't want to carve it from stick, especially when somebody did.

[utley]

drpepper resins?

[Tripio]

drpepper resins?

Those ones are in scale 1/72.

Hasegawa Aircraft Weapons set "D" in 1/48 contains 2 GBU-31s,maybe you can make some copies from resin...

Edited November 27, 2010 by Tripio

[Nige]

Hi all,

This is my first post one here, so hello!! I currently post over on flory models and Large scale planes under the same name.

I just picked up one of these 48th beasts at a show, with the etch sets, decals and metal gear.

I think I might get stuck into the kit, and start on the bomb bays first, as I really enjoy scratch building. I hope to copy some of your wonderful work on here, along with the images in daco's brilliant book.

Is anyone else stuck into this kit at the moment??

Nige

[utley]

Some of us more than others...Ive had mine on hold for a while though. I would really like to get back to work on it, but seeing how 2bobs may release their bomb bay set this year (like they said last year, and the year before...), I may just keep it in the closet in the box.

[Modeler]

I'm in my 3rd.......and with 4 more inthe stash.....

Edited April 30, 2011 by Modeler

[Nige]

Having looked at images on the net and the brilliant Willy Peters Daco publication, I have noticed that the forward and centre bays are actually one long bay, with a bulkhead in between. The bulkhead actually has gaps around it.

So, I've done this...

I figure all the detail on the walls is a little simple, so I've taken one big plunge here!!

Now I'll make a start on the rivetted walls and panels using .020" card, Tamiya scriber and a Trumpeter rivetting wheel tool.

Thanks for looking..

Nige

Edited May 2, 2011 by Nige

[SebastianP]

I'm a bit curious about that bulkhead and the bay doors actually. My 1/72 kit is configured OOB for internal ALCM carriage, which means the bulkhead is moved forward to make room. According to that kit, there's only one set of doors for the whole forward bay. On the 1/48 kit, the doors are separate, with a spacer on the bulkhead. Is either, or both, of these correct? (Also, shame shame shame on Monogram for those damned doors on the 1/72 kit...)

SP

[Nige]

I'm a bit curious about that bulkhead and the bay doors actually. My 1/72 kit is configured OOB for internal ALCM carriage, which means the bulkhead is moved forward to make room. According to that kit, there's only one set of doors for the whole forward bay. On the 1/48 kit, the doors are separate, with a spacer on the bulkhead. Is either, or both, of these correct? (Also, shame shame shame on Monogram for those damned doors on the 1/72 kit...)

SP

According to my Willy Peeters book, and all the walkarounds on the net, the bay is one long bay, with what looks like a moveable bulkhead in the middle?. The doors for front and rear are separate, ie:- 4 doors in front of the main undercarriage bay.

I would be interested to know more about the centre bulkhead if anyone out there knows??

Nige

[C-130CrewChief]

According to my Willy Peeters book, and all the walkarounds on the net, the bay is one long bay, with what looks like a moveable bulkhead in the middle?. The doors for front and rear are separate, ie:- 4 doors in front of the main undercarriage bay.

I would be interested to know more about the centre bulkhead if anyone out there knows??

Nige

The bulkhead was installed by treaty. Read here. Link

Curt

Edited May 8, 2011 by C-130CrewChief

[B-one Keeper]

According to my Willy Peeters book, and all the walkarounds on the net, the bay is one long bay, with what looks like a moveable bulkhead in the middle?. The doors for front and rear are separate, ie:- 4 doors in front of the main undercarriage bay.

I would be interested to know more about the centre bulkhead if anyone out there knows??

Nige

The bulkhead is installed in the middle of the large weapons bay, creating two weapons bays that can use either the 180 inch Rotary Launcher, Bomb Module, or Fuel Tank. It can be moved forward 90 inches to allow the use of the 270 inch ALCM Rotary Launcher and a 90 inch fuel tank. The bulkhead has always been a part of the aircraft. With out it, no weapons or launchers could be carried in those weapons bays and the fwd fueslage would probably twist severely. The START Treaty only dictates if it can be moved or not.

Only one aircraft (85-0068) has ever had its center bulkhead moved and that was for flight testing. I have never actually seen the bulkhead moved in my career on the aircraft. A lot of the aircraft are twisted or tweaked in such a way that the bulkheads would probably never come out anyway. Either way, ALCMs are a thing of the past for the B-1B.

Shaun

[dupes]

Wow, wow, wow...just finished a complete 6-day readthrough of all 50 pages of this thread. Pretty amazing resource here. I only wish some of the old picture links were still active!

So, where I'm at - I have two identical boxings of the 1/48 beast (kit 4900 with the rubber tires). My plan is to start with a SAC-schemed version with closed bomb bays and the kit-supplied turkey-feathered exhausts, then move on to a gunship-gray bird with open bays - hopefully from TwoMikes! - the Eduard exhausts, Shull sniper + decoys, etc. etc. Unfortunately, unlike at the beginning of this thread, the Cutting Edge nozzles have now become near impossible to find so it looks like that's my only option unless one of you has a spare set that I could trade for.

As far as decals, I have several options, but ONLY ones for gunship gray Lancers. I have a complete Fox One sheet, one complete CE sheet + two other partial sheets. If anyone would be interested in a trade for one of my missing SAC markings, please let me know!

It appears that I need to find the Daco book stat. Number one on my shopping list.

Question for you guys (which might become obvious once I obtain the book) - do the earlier turkey-feathered B-1's have the decoy system? I know that the sniper pod is a late addition, so wouldn't be necessary, but I don't know if I need a second Shull decoy set. Also, are the kit feathered exhausts accurate for the early time frame?

Lots of info - hopefully you guys can help. Looking forward to my BOne!

[Ishthe47guy]

Dupes, I'll send you a PM regarding the SAC decals as soon as I finish typing this.

The decoy system is a fairly recent addition, so only the gunship grey birds would have them.

The detail on the exterior of the kit nozzles is not accurate. When the nozzles still had the turkey feathers installed, they looked like big GE F-110 nozzles you would find on any GE powered F-14 or F-16. I seem to remember a discussion if 32nd F-110 nozzles would work in a 48th B-1, but can't remember what came out of it, its been some time.