Old Man Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 I have made a good deal of progress in assembling these, and thought I would put up a note here, where people are interested in the period particularly, about the pictures I have up in the In-Progress forum. http://s102164210.onlinehome.us/forums/ind...showtopic=43301 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Man Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 I have up some new pictures on this project; the cowlings are foiled and Audax radial motor attached now. Happy modeling, gentlemen! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skyking Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Yet another delightfully esoteric subject OldMan. Keep them coming. Cheers Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark M. Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 I love your use of foil! I'm thinking of using foil for my 48th B17G... THINKING about it... pictures like this make me want to try it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Man Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 Thank you, gentlemen. I have got enough more done on these to justify some new pictures, which I have put up in In Progress in the same thread linked to above. Preliminary finish on the fuselage is done, including decalling. Happy modeling, Gentlemen! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Man Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 I have got some new pictures up on this project: painting is complete, exhaust stacks, guns, wheels, etc., have been added.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Man Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 I have begun getting the upper wings on these at last. I ran into some difficulties, as the kit supplied interplane struts could not be made to fit, and I have had to contruct my own. I have put up some pictures in a new topic in the In-Progress forum, here: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=48366 Mr. King, you may be pleased to know I have been driven to essay a jig, albeit a crude one, in order to fit scratch-built interplane struts. Here is a picture of the primitive device, with the Iraqi Audax at rest on it.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big'Ed Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 That's a great idea Old Man, making a jig to support the top wing. I'm nowhere near ready to build a biplane but when I eventually do I'll try your method. How did you determine the correct distance between the wings? Will you be adding the rigging wires at a later stage? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Man Posted March 14, 2005 Author Share Posted March 14, 2005 Thank you, Mr. Ed. Biplanes are not nearly as daunting as they appear. There is a great deal of good advice in the "Stupid Biplane Question" thread below, in this sub-forum. As I noted, I am no expert on jigs, this being my first attempt at one. But the combination of forward and outward slant on these struts made it impossible for me to accurately calculate their proper length from the drawings, and so, since I have to make the struts from scratch in this case, I really had no choice: I had to have the wings in place, so I could make struts that would fit the gap. The thing is kind of delicate to use, because the upper wing is not fixed in position, and I fear to risk the acrylic finish by taping it down. I determined the seperation from the front view 1/72 drawings of this machine I have, measuring from the bottoms of the wings. Where dihedral is present, you do have to pick the point where your jig will engage, because the gap will vary with the slant of the wings. I will certainly rig the beasts. There are elastic threads available that I use, though others have different methods. Happy modeling, Sir! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skyking Posted March 14, 2005 Share Posted March 14, 2005 Mr. Oldman, One of the things that makes the hobby gratifying for me is to be able to pass on some tips or techniques others find useful. The jig in your case may look crude, but it serves the purpose and that's all that matters. One thing that I've found works well for jig lumber is 5/8 x 1/8 balsa sticks that you can buy at any decent hobby shop. It cuts easy and it takes pins well, and when you are done with the jig, it breaks apart easily. The thing is kind of delicate to use, because the upper wing is not fixed in position, and I fear to risk the acrylic finish by taping it down. A simple solution Oldman. Use straight pins into the endgrain of the brace under the wing, and another on the back side, then use small rubber bands over the top of the wing to "clamp" it in place so it doesn't move. I also use small plastic clamps you can get from Sears for about a dollar each to clamp wings to jigs. There's nothing more frustrating than cutting struts with the wing in place, only to find that one or two is too short because the wing moved when you were taking measurements. The picture below should give a good idea how clamps and rubber bands can be used. To keep the top wing perfectly level I clamped a metal bar across the top of the upper wing, and though you can't see them because the clamps block the view, the upper wing is rubber banded in place on the upper wing cradel of the jig. It made cutting struts so much easier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Man Posted March 14, 2005 Author Share Posted March 14, 2005 Many thanks, Mr. King! I would never have thought of the pin and rubber-band idea, but will be employing it this evening, when I take my second pass at the Export Aufax struts. I used lathe acquired as fire-place kindling for this, because it was on hand, and I did not want to wait on a trip to the hobby shop to get the thing done. I will acquire some of the balsa grade you recommend this afternoon, for future use: the idea of a breakable jig seems useful indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Man Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 Some pictures of the Iraqi Audax off the jig with upper wing attached are now up here: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=48366 Thanks again, Mr. King! I have started rigging the Hardy tonight, and with favor from the modeling Gods, may have both rigged by close of the weekend.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skyking Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Looking good OldMan, glad I could be of help. Very interesting and esoteric subject, and somewhat timely too. Cheers Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Man Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 This weekend I have completed the main-plane rigging on these little beasties. I am taking the liberty of putting up a couple of pictures here, one a frontal view of the Hardy, the other a close-up of the nose of the Iraqi Export Audax; more can be found in the thread current in the In-Progress forum.... To Mr. King: you have been indeed a great help, Sir. The topicality is part of what got me off center from merely thinking of this project. I have wanted a model of one of the radial "Harts" since I first saw pictures of one as a lad. I have a certain interest in Middle eastern matters, and in the history of English Imperial policing. One of my next projects, after the Spanish Civil War group build, will be a Westland Wapiti, though I have not decided whether it will be one based in Iraq or on the Northwest Frontier (now Pakistan): I recently recieved sufficient interior information, from a great fellow, Mr. Dave Loughhead in Australia, to do the thing right from an old Frog Wallace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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