china.sunyu Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 :( USA's Mig-29 picture,it's buy to the Moldova. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raymond Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 is that USAFA99? thats the onyl user whos close to the name u gave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Sunyu, The Mig-29s that USAF bought from Moldova to prevent a possible Iranian purchase were mostly used for test and evaluation. I don't think there ever was a publicly available photo where they wore anything other than Moldovan markings. I doubt they were ever painted in any other way. Maybe they could be painted with fake Soviet markings as many of the static former Warsaw Pact aircraft that are exhibited in some USAF bases. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jan Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 The Mig-29s that USAF bought from Moldova to prevent a possible Iranian purchase Kursad, I doubt this was the reason because: 1) Iranians already had Fulcrums bought directly from russia in 1990 2) Iranians got more Fulcrums from Iraq during Desert Storm 3) As you can understand from 1), Russians did not and have not problem selling Iran military aircraft directly 4) The Fulcrums were rather disappointment for IRIAF, so Iranians were not interested in further purchase Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan_Lotton Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 I believe the reason why they were purchased was because they were nuclear-capable, where the ones sold to Iran were not. Btw...what is Iran's front line fighter now? Surely it's Tomcats and aging Phantoms must be replaced soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkhornet Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 (edited) here america mig 29 Edited February 7, 2005 by hawkhornet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 The Mig-29s that USAF bought from Moldova to prevent a possible Iranian purchase Kursad, I doubt this was the reason because: 1) Iranians already had Fulcrums bought directly from russia in 1990 2) Iranians got more Fulcrums from Iraq during Desert Storm 3) As you can understand from 1), Russians did not and have not problem selling Iran military aircraft directly 4) The Fulcrums were rather disappointment for IRIAF, so Iranians were not interested in further purchase Jan, This reason was very well publicized and generated a lot of discussion in publications all over the world; it is not my own speculation. The Moldovan Mig-29's were said to be nuclear capable, and the purchase of these aircraft by US was said to be a preemptive move to prevent them from being purchased by Iran. Modifications on a military aircraft to enable the carriage of nuclear weapons provides important clues on the design of authorization and triggering systems and PAL (permissive action link) technology, so it makes sense that an aircraft wired to interface with these systems would be helpful to a country with known nuclear aspirations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 hereamerica mig 29 This was an East German painted Mig. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkhornet Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 i know but it looks so cool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 The Mig-29s that USAF bought from Moldova to prevent a possible Iranian purchase Kursad, I doubt this was the reason because: 1) Iranians already had Fulcrums bought directly from russia in 1990 2) Iranians got more Fulcrums from Iraq during Desert Storm 3) As you can understand from 1), Russians did not and have not problem selling Iran military aircraft directly 4) The Fulcrums were rather disappointment for IRIAF, so Iranians were not interested in further purchase Jan, This reason was very well publicized and generated a lot of discussion in publications all over the world; it is not my own speculation. The Moldovan Mig-29's were said to be nuclear capable, and the purchase of these aircraft by US was said to be a preemptive move to prevent them from being purchased by Iran. Modifications on a military aircraft to enable the carriage of nuclear weapons provides important clues on the design of authorization and triggering systems and PAL (permissive action link) technology, so it makes sense that an aircraft wired to interface with these systems would be helpful to a country with known nuclear aspirations. The Moldavian MiG-29's were "C" Models, and evidentially Nuc capable. There is one at the Nellis AFB TTF. It is painted as a A/C from a guards regiment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spaced Marine Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Nice cockpit pics. That is one shiny Mig. I doubt if one in Soviet service would be that shiny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jan Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 This reason was very well publicized ....The Moldovan Mig-29's were said to be nuclear capable Ok, this makes sense Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Actually, the Guards markings were what was found underneath the Moldovan paint, when they began stripping it down. I agree that the gloss paint has to go. That's horrid. I havent been to Nellis since 2000, did they ever put the engines back in it? Jeff I was there last in Nov 2002 and the motors were not in it. However If my moldy brains can remember there was a motor next to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EF Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Some pre-delivery pics, an UB: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EF Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 A single seater: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airjiml2 Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 More info and pics of one on display at NAISC at Wright Patterson: Blue 62 And another under restoration for the USAFM: USAFM MiG-29 Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grach25 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 hereamerica mig 29 :) america mig 29 :D ???? What about Peru and Cuba,we are not americans too???? USA only is not all America,please remember that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g0_command0 Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 They have a mig-29 on display at NAS FALLON Quote Link to post Share on other sites
partizan131 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Hello! Does anyone have more photos of moldavian Mig 29? Thanks in advance ;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Barr Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 (edited) What about Peru and Cuba,we are not americans too????USA only is not all America,please remember that. While it is true that there is North America, Latin America, and South America, and members of those regions are considered 'american', answer this; when ask where you are from do you say "I am from Cuba / Peru", or do you say I am from America." ? My bet you say the country you live in not the american region, however since it is the United States of American, and when ask which country they are from, the answer is America, and also that is how the rest of the world uses the term when asking info regarding something from the USA. Would anyone really ask for info on America MiG-29 if you wanted info for a Cuban / Peruvian MiG-29? It just would not make sense and only confuse people to do otherwise, and is not meant as a slight to any of the other countries in the Americas. Regards Jim Barr Edited December 22, 2005 by Jim Barr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yuri Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Knowing that today's friends might later become enemies, the Soviets were unwilling to sell their best hardware to allied countries. So usually "export" versions had downgraded parameters (less capable radar and so on). The export MiG-29A was available in 2 versions: 9.12A (for warsaw pact countries, very similar to the soviet version) and 9.12B (the less capable export version for Irak, Iran and so on). So, apart from beeing nuclear capable or not, the Moldovian (soviet-standard) Fulcrum-Cs should have been much more interesting for a country that had only MiG-29 (9.12B). Yuri Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyWan Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 hereamerica mig 29 <_< this one's good for me....where can i find one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 1 vx4 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Nellis Mig 29 photos from Nov airshow 2005 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 1 vx4 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 tail pic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vandy 1 vx4 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Not sure if this is the aircraft you all are talking about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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