Marcel111 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 That looks awesome!! Marcel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starflyer Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Because i like to make my Su27 very weathered, i came across a very nice picture which is very faded and worn out see below Most builds i see start with preshading, hull colour and camo pattern and then the weathering. But i like to do something else, so i experimented with a part that is replaced with the Excellent intakes from ZACTOMODELS! so i like to explain how i did this, First: i sprayed the intake in a silver/aluminum tamiya paint Second: a spray of Tamiya XF4 yellowgreen to replicate the primer color third: a coat of revell 31149 lightblue (which is not the exact color, only for testing if it should look right) fourth: When the paint had dryed for some days, i polished some areas with very fine sanding/polish paper and lots of water to create the worn surface seen on the picture above. Fifth: to bring the rivets/panellines to the front i used some grey/brown pastelpowder, applied with a brush and wiped the exces with a cloth. Please let me know what do you think off this method!!, or are there other suggestions i could use? Here's the picture of the intake. Thanks!! Wasserfall Ciao Wasserfal, I think you are on the best way to replicate the weathered paint of this Su-27. I suggest you to polish more big area with natural metal and if it would appear too much shining spry a very light coat of paint, but without cover the metal area (or green primer area). Good job. Ciao Quote Link to post Share on other sites
upupandaway Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) Hi Henry! It´s a very intersting technique but also quite time consuing in the preparation, I guess. I think this looks very good and had planned to try a similar effect but since all the paint is already on, I´ll have to get there with a brush. Keep it up and your bird will look absolutely fantastic!!! Greetings, Martin Edited November 10, 2008 by upupandaway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMan Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Love your technique I might have to try that sometime! Awesome looking Flanker as well! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wasserfall Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Thank you all for the kind reactions to replicate the bare metal i think Starflyer has a very good point And yes it will be time consuming, but that's the case with this Flanker already But there are some things to correct and assemble before i finaly try this paint method. Thanks!! Wasserfall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wasserfall Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) Today i post some pictures from my work on the canopy, using the very nice ZACTOMODELS canopy Next a picture were the panellines are visible, and offcourse! different from the Trumpeter one. The red lines represent the actual panel lines in reall life. So after some rescribing it ended up like this, note: i used silver paint to find any imperfections this will be polished and rescribed a litle The other side, it does look rather crude, but the picture has some bad lighting ( i should get me some studio lighting some time) Thanks for watching, and if there are any complaints, please feel free to respond:) Edited November 21, 2008 by Wasserfall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostkiller Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Hi Wasserfall don't forget to fill up the dots at the side of the nose cone junction too they do not exist otherwise it is great :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealth fighter Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 That's the most amazing Flanker what I've seen! PS. Sorry. My english isn't very good you see. :( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janman Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 if there are any complaints Complaints? Nooo. It looks great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
upupandaway Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Hi! Which Alclad tone did you use? Nice work also on the panel lines. I would suggest that you also make those changes to the rivets as Ghostkiller had mentioned, but it looks great anyway. :lol: :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wasserfall Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 Hi!Which Alclad tone did you use? Nice work also on the panel lines. I would suggest that you also make those changes to the rivets as Ghostkiller had mentioned, but it looks great anyway. :) ;) Well i just used Tamiya silver in a spray can, nothing fancy, it will be sanded/polished anyway it's just to show imperfections to me Today i removed the rivets Ghostkiller suggested, i totally overlooked them as i was tu busy on the canopy Cheers!! Wasserfall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CW4 Erick Swanberg Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 That is awesome I will definately have to try this Erick :) Because i like to make my Su27 very weathered, i came across a very nice picture which is very faded and worn out see below Most builds i see start with preshading, hull colour and camo pattern and then the weathering. But i like to do something else, so i experimented with a part that is replaced with the Excellent intakes from ZACTOMODELS! so i like to explain how i did this, First: i sprayed the intake in a silver/aluminum tamiya paint Second: a spray of Tamiya XF4 yellowgreen to replicate the primer color third: a coat of revell 31149 lightblue (which is not the exact color, only for testing if it should look right) fourth: When the paint had dryed for some days, i polished some areas with very fine sanding/polish paper and lots of water to create the worn surface seen on the picture above. Fifth: to bring the rivets/panellines to the front i used some grey/brown pastelpowder, applied with a brush and wiped the exces with a cloth. Please let me know what do you think off this method!!, or are there other suggestions i could use? Here's the picture of the intake. Thanks!! Wasserfall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
upupandaway Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 There is one more thing you might also want to add. I had forgotten to mention it in my last post. It´s something I also had to correct later: The two latches (I think they are called) for the ladder are too closely together. I belive the rear one has to be slightly more backwards. If you are using the LH decals you will definitely notice this since they are designed to fit a bigger distance between them. Greetings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wasserfall Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 Thanks to ghostkiller, i filled up the rivets and replaced them with excisting ones on the reall thing And now i'm starting with the reall paintwork!, man that thing is big, i need at least 2 or 3 bottles of paint (Tamiya) per color! In this picture you can see the primer which has been polished with very fine sanding/polishpaper. Next a layer of Tamiya Flataluminium Followed by a coat of Tamiya XF-4 Yellow-Green to replicate the primer color The pictures were taken under different light conditions, so they do not match perfectly, but when time permits i will build some sort of "studio lighting"with a bleuish background Thanks for any comment. Wish you all a happy new year!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janman Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Looks simply outstanding, can't wait to see more! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rom Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 cool! cant wait to see your painting process! bye Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Been a while since I checked back. Looking great. I think those panel lines are going to show up very well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcel111 Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 That's not going to be just another Flanker Looking beautiful already! Marcel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wasserfall Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Oke, she is still alive! After determing what colours i should use i ordered the Xtracolor Flanker paint (X602 lightblue,X601 med bleu and X603 darkbleu). because i wanted to make a heavy weathered Flanker i had to lighten up these colours (even ended up not to use the darkbleu!) So i added white and a touch of Humbrol dark bleu, because the bleu of Xtracolor seemed to yellow/bleuish In this picture i sprayed the first coat of lightbleu toned down I have to say that i don't like the Xtracolor, for it is to thin (without thinner added) and had to spray several layers to get it covered and it is gloss paint!! next time i stick with Revell, Humbrol or Testors Here you see the base camo, for the grey i used the X601 mediumbleu and added white and darkgrey, for the bleu camo i used the X601 and added some white and darkbleu Humbrol as mentioned above so i didn't use the darkbleu at all! The colors have to be more faded, in some pictures off the reall Su they are extremely faded Note that i used tube lighting so the colors don't seem exactly as shown. As i mentioned before i wanted to use a different technique to replicate the worn camo, in this picture i polished/sanded the camo pattern with very fine waterproofsandingpaper in some places you see the yellow primer coming threu (in reall live it is sometimes even worse, i load up some if i work on the engine covers) What do you think sofar ( needs to be washed etc. offcourse) Thanks for watching. Edited February 22, 2009 by Wasserfall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zebra Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 HOLY SMOKES!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcel111 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 It's going to be an absolute beauty! Marcel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jack-Swiss Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I believe that this method will take long time to be done but surely will be a heck of a job when done and that chipped paint will look as real as the real item...in fact you are actually doing almost the same way of how it happens on the real plane so you're doing an awesome job!!!!!! Keep it up :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
borz666 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Starting to look VERY convicing! I am impressed! :) Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johan C Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 It looks really, really good! This is going to be the coolest Flanker paintwork I have seen. I wouldn't dare to use the same method because I'm a coward but you certainly make it look easy. Can't wait to see this one finished! /Johan C Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wasserfall Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 After playing around with the camo scheme were i touched up some places with lighter bleu to loose some contrast between the colors, i mixed some green for the dielectric panels, just looking at pictures and mix some Humbrol light and darkgreen, just by eye. Again the first layer of paint is a lighter one than the second, so if i polish that it looks weathered. Seen from the other side, with some daylight!! (haven't had that in a long time) Some detail pictures will follow shortly Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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