mtphotos Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Just want to know where other members stand on hand-painting. What size would you paint with a brush, and where is the airbrush borderline? Myself, I used to paint only small parts with a brush, and recently I've invested in brand new Tamiya flathead brushes anywhere from $2.95 to $11.95 each, and yesterday painted the wings of my AN124..... Need 2 coats of grey, but turned out better that expected.... Also plan to do the bottom like that since airbrush is packed away for the winter, as I choose to paint on the balcony, and not to make my apartment a fume hood Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
canadian_camo Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 i'd paint just about anything before i got my airbrush but i still do lots of my work like cockpits and stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 large or small... hand painted them all in my time, from an Me-110 to an F-15E and up to a KC-135's and side steped to some B-52's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkhornet Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 cockpit! nothing bigger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volzj Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I hand paint only the tiniest details such as cockpit dials/switches, pitot tubes, seat cushions etc... I airbrush everything else. Although, I could likely get away with more brush painting, as Polly Scale is so hand-brush friendly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Cheetah Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 cockpit!nothing bigger Same here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ivanho4 Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 <_< Mostly stuff like landing gear, cockpit seats, instrument panels, etc. I have hand painted some camo patterns with a very expensive flat brush...especially when it is bitter cold outside. (My compressor and airbrushes sit in my unheated garage.) It's either that or wait for a big thaw to come. Ivan :blink: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Blind Dog Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 (edited) The largest thing I've successfully hand-brush painted is the Hasegawa 1/32 ME 163 Komet. . .which is, granted, a pretty small bird, but that's still a fair amount of real estate relative to what most guys are willing to hand-brush. (There are a number of larger 1/32 a/c in the model gallery here that have been hand-brushed quite beautifully. . .alas, not by me!) I regularly hand-brush everything; the trick to successful hand-brushing is eliminating visible brush strokes while producing a smooth, even finish; this is achieved by 1. making sure that the paint flows smoothly and evenly onto the surface (I've just ordered myself some Liquetex Flow-Aid Flow Enhancer to add to my Polly Scale paints, finally taking Barney Dunlevey's advice! I also just found out that using a few drops of Tamiya acrylic airbrush thinner makes the Tamiya paints much more hand-brush friendly!), 2. Always brushing in the same direction coat after coat, 3. making each stroke as long and even as possible (this is why slightly larger flat brushes are better for hand-brushing, they cover more area per stroke more evenly). Those dinky little round (or is it semi-round?) white-handled brushes that Testors has sold for years are a complete joke for any type of serious hand-brushing over large areas. You need good quality red-sable FLATS; keep them clean and soft (soak in Palmolive dish detergent after every session). Keep the paint nice and warm when using it, and always use the recommended thinner (as water is the thinner of choice for Polly Scale, I also like to keep it as warm as possible). Cheers Old Blind Dog Edited February 14, 2006 by Old Blind Dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 c'pit (sometimes), ejection seat, LG struts, LG wells (if not too visible and /or heavily weathered), Wheels (always), inside the burner cans.... thats about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I paint about 95% airbrush/5% hand. Usually its just the small fiddly bits that get a hand-job (eh? <_< ) I find airbrushing doesn't take much longer than handbrushing now I've got a good set-up in the basement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mlicari Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Prior to getting my airbrush, I did a 1/48 Ju-52, a 1/48 Catalina, and a 1/48 B-24 with a brush. If I recall correctly, it weeks of painting sessions to do each. What a pain. <_< Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bri2k Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I hand paint everything exclusively. The largest model I've hand painted so far is Academy's 1/144 B-36. I've got a 1/72 Boeing 247, Ju-86 and a Ju-88 I'm bashing into a Bloch 210 prototype. Those will all be hand painted. It might seem strange, but I find great satisfaction in painting by hand. I guess it's the frustrated fine-artist in me. Bri2k Quote Link to post Share on other sites
virsago_mk2 Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Cockpit & wheels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Pretty much just small detail work. I use an airbrush for everything else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollie T-Y Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 See, i dont really care about my cockpits, seeing as mine all hang from the roof, so they dont get any special detail at all (either all black, or all black with a olive green chair), But, ive only used an airbrush on my latest model, and all the rest i hand painted (including a 1/48 Raptor) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julien (UK) Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I hand brush everything. Biggest to date, 1/48 F-15 and 1/24 Hurricane. Julien Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart Porteous Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I airbrush the main colours but I wouldn't normally bother for smaller stuff, eg cockpits, undercarriage, anti-glare panels etc. The exception is white (always spray even if it's out of a rattle-can) and metallic colours. Having said that, I've just brush-painted a Stranraer for the Matchbox GB, including the aluminium undersides ! Stuart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I hand brush everything (except natural metal),the largest kits I've done are two F/A-18E/F's an F-15E and a Buccaneer all in 1/48. Stephen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
canadian_camo Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 (edited) i just hand painted the dark green (british) wings,top of fuselage and elevators on my 1/72 B-17E just a little while ago Edited February 15, 2006 by canadian_camo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
model_madness Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Personally i find that brush painting just doent give that even, smooth finished id like. Maybe its my technique ( or lack of! ), brushes,the fact that i dont thin, or that i'm using Tamiya acrylic paints. Who knows These days, im getting faster at setting up and cleaning my a.b so tend to do most jobs on it. Cockpit, wheels , pilots i still do by hand tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobski Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I've only just got my airbrush, so I use that for larger areas and brush paint the rest. Examples: Cockpit, seats, undercarriage, most ordnance, intakes and exhausts are all brush painted (to get the extra detail). Wings and fuselages and some ordnance (e.g. drop tanks) are all airbrushed. This will probably change as I get more confident with the airbrush, but I'm happy with it this way at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Wheels and radomes, but only if the radome is solid flat black. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Josh1971 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 My biggest problem with my airbrush is that I just can't seem to mix the paint good enough all the time. So half the time I'm jamming my a.b. with paint that's too thick- so I'll over compensate and get it so it's very thin and runny. I still hand-brush most of my 1/144 planes as they're so small it doesn't seem to matter much. I'll sometimes do all of a 1/72 plane by brush as well. jb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Old Blind Dog Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Subsequent to my first posting on this thread over a year ago I've purchased and learned how to use an airbrush. I'm still climbing the learning curve, but now mostly all my exteriors are airbrushed. I still hand-brush paint all my cockpits, wheel wells, wheels/tires etc. For the near future I'm planning on doing a series of WWII RAF fighters in 1/72, most with two-tone topside camo schemes; for these I will probably airbrush the overall color and carefully hand-brush the secondary color. I've found that I can hand-brush Polly Scale thinned with distilled water and Liquitex FlowAid Flow Enhancer with excellent results that don't look inferior next to an airbrushed finish. I've also recently discovered Citadel (from Games Workshop) acrylic metallics (Mithril Silver, Chainmail and Boltgun); when properly thinned these paints can be handbrushed quite beautifully (unlike just about any other acrylic metallic). And while I'm probably not going to try hand-brushing an entire NMF airplane any more, I'd have to say that it really is possible with this stuff! Cheers Old Blind Dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janman Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Whole 1/72 aircraft! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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