AnthonyWan Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 (edited) Just finished reading through Wings of Fury by Robert Wilcox. Got me thinking...so I did some more research through some other books ...and came up still thinking this: how can this guy be missing in Iraq so long and no one has found his body (god forbid.. :D ), or heard of him? also brings up the question of why the government claimed he was shot down by a SAM...when most people/books say he was realyl downed by an obselete Mig-25 now we get to modelling aspect of this whole story. according to my references, Speicher was flying an F-18C the night he was shot down. are there markings available for Speicher's jet in 1/32? i've got the old Repliscale sheet with Mongilo, Fox, and Speicher's jets on it, but thats way too special to use.. Edited March 11, 2006 by AnthonyWan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 (edited) also brings up the question of why the government claimed he was shot down by a SAM...when most people/books say he was realyl downed by an obselete Mig-25 Because they originally thought he was shot down by a SAM; you know that whole "fog of war" thing. The Pentagon's official position now is that he was downed by a MiG-25. As far as the markings, you might want to try a search here on ARC; Scott Brown has done a lot of study on the markings and has posted on it in the past. Regards, Murph Edited March 11, 2006 by Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Yeah, as I understand it, as his flight was inbound to target they kept getting intermittent returns on a MiG-25 whose pilot REALLY appeared to know what he was doing. It's not well realized that radar is not the end-all supreme detector some believe it to be, even with an aircraft with as HUGE a return as the Foxbat. Seems like the pilot really was working every trick he knew and then some to get around the flight, and they never got clearance to fire because of the HUGE volume of Allied aircraft in the area...it was insane!! I also recall reading that they did find a prison cell with some writing/graffiti believed to have been from him, dated only a few years before we (the US) returned to Iraq. Sounds like he'd been prisoner a long, long time...although I'd bet he was "disposed of" before the US returned. I never knew that man nor any of his family, but his story will haunt some part of me forever, in some small way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyWan Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Did a search on "Scott Speicher" and came up with one 1/48 Hase F-18C build, and a few pictures from the 2Bob's forum. Also realized that my Repliscale sheet is compltetly useless...for the most part :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkhornet Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 heard about this some time ago now had a link to a very good site but lost the link :) couldnt forget about this poor pilots story for weeks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkhornet Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 oh, just found this though http://www.freescottspeicher.org/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyWan Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 Would there happen to be some good reference sites for Speicher's jet? I think the Academy F-18C is a good candidate for his markings, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Hey guys, I just came across this article the other day. Pretty informative. http://www.ohiopowmia.com/speicherarticle1.html Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Well, the US military has access to the entire Iraq now-hasn't there been a single shred of new information since 2003? They (the Pentagon) should have investigated the matter in detail. I am curious to read what they have learned. (The "Free Spike" web site suggests that he was last seen alive in 2003!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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