Flyingfortress Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Does anyone know if there are or will be a new kit coming out for the F-22 in 1:48 scale (other then Revells and Italeri which I heard are poo-poo)? I want one, but the forementioned manufacturers kits are supposed to be a nightmare. Any info? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 No new kits that I know of. The existing kit has it's problems (Italeri and RoG are the same kit): - Poor fit of intakes / just be careful and take your time - Poor fit of closed doors / if you want to close the doors, do so before you assemble the fuselage - Step between the forward and aft upper fuselage halves / assemble these first before mating them with the lower fuselage like the instructions would have you do - Poor painting instructions / See the thread by MarkS for how to do it - Crappy decals / But TwoBobs is finally going to do a Raptor sheet, so pick up a set when they come out - Cockpit is easy - everything's black and use the decal for the front control panel - Tenax is weak on the plastic. I use it to position parts and CA to hold them The overall shape is good and I've seen some well built Raptor kits here. So while the F-22 is a challenge, you could do a lot worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Just to add to what Trigger said, the main manufacturers tend to be rather tight lipped anymore about future releases to avoid having somebody beat them to the punch. Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFo Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Yes, there will be a new tool F-22 eventually. No, there hasn't been anything announced by anyone. There are likely a couple of manufacturers who have started looking into possibly producing the subject (which may or may not pan out) and may have started work on research (which may or may not be put on indefinite hold), but you're probably looking at at least two years before anything gets released (and that would be very optimistic). It's just a matter of time. If you want one in the short term, go with the Italeri/Revell kit. If you're willing to wait, something better will come around. But waiting is the key term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 But go ahead and get the TwoBobs decals when they come out. We've waited a long time for these, let's show Bob our appreciation; support the Raptor Decal! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longmc Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Yes, there will be a new tool F-22 eventually. No, there hasn't been anything announced by anyone. There are likely a couple of manufacturers who have started looking into possibly producing the subject (which may or may not pan out) and may have started work on research (which may or may not be put on indefinite hold), but you're probably looking at at least two years before anything gets released (and that would be very optimistic). It's just a matter of time. If you want one in the short term, go with the Italeri/Revell kit. If you're willing to wait, something better will come around. But waiting is the key term. Man, I'd love to see a Revell/monogram like their F-15E and Rafale!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fishwelding Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Just a theory: I'm growing suspicious that while Italeri merrily kitted the prototypes in the 1990s of the superhornet and the F/A-22, the rest of the model companies learned by experience about getting burned by kitting prototypes, instead of waiting for the production models to enter service. Tamiya's A-10 and F-16, Monogram's F-16....has Hasagawa been guilty of this, too? Tank kits have had this problem, too. Note that Monogram and Hasagawa waited until the superhornet entered service to start work on their kits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 (edited) Can't speak for the Super Hornet, but I'm not aware of any significant external changes between F-22 91-001 circa September 1997, and the Raptors in line service today, especially along any lines similar to the differences between the YF-16 and F-16 FSD aircraft. However, I think you're onto something with the manufacturers hesitating, but now it's because of the long development time of the F-22 and the risks of cancellation it faced. Just look at the RAH-66 Comanche. Edited May 12, 2006 by Trigger74 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 (edited) Just has Hasagawa been guilty of this, too? The F-20. I also don't know what they were thinking of with the X-29. Along the same vein would be their first F-117 kit (based on the first released photograph) and their MiG-29 also, both with glaring inaccuracies because of insufficient references. Regards, Murph Edited May 12, 2006 by Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 The F-20. I also don't know what they were thinking of with the X-29. Along the same vein would be their first F-117 kit (based on the first released photograph) and their MiG-29 also.Regards, Murph It couldn't have been worse than the ERTL F-117 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Now that kit is a real to build. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedHeadKevin Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 (edited) Anyone look at Testor's B-2? Nah, that's nothing... check out Revell's "B-2." ..."authentic details?" And Hasegawa has fallen into the trap of releasing kits before their time. For example, their F-15E. IT's not a bad kit of the demonstrator (which was a B-model) but it ain't no Echo. Edited May 12, 2006 by RedHeadKevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aim9xray Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 ..."authentic details?" Yeah. The details were authentic. The kit wasn't! I liked how the cockpit windows kinda looked like those of the Seaview. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big fatty Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Sure, it will come out a week before the F-22 retiers from active service. <_< Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Impatient Pete Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 It couldn't have been worse than the ERTL F-117 Hey! I didn't know that they made an F-117 egg plane! Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Yes, there will be a new tool F-22 eventually. It's just a matter of time. If you want one in the short term, go with the Italeri/Revell kit. If you're willing to wait, something better will come around. But waiting is the key term. Yeah, but the problem is we've been waiting for a LONG time and there is plenty of references to at least make a decent kit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nimrod77 Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 (edited) Here's how my Raptor came out. Took a long time and alot of elbow grease but it came out looking like a raptor I think The panel lines are out on the left fwd upper fuselage. I used the Eduard set and it helps a bit for the details etc. Let me know if you want any more tips HTH Nimrod Edited May 13, 2006 by nimrod77 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raptor22 Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Maybe Hase will surprise everyone at the 45 Shizuoka Hobby Show this year? who knows? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollie T-Y Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Did you notice the ARURORA on that B-2 box? maybe theyre gonna have a guess as to the real details on that Enigma Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 Here's how my Raptor came out. It came out pretty great. Nice job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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