Thommo Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 (edited) This model comes with v sparse cockpit detail - a basic seat & pilot are the only internals. Couldn't source an aftermarket details set, so going to scratch it up. Got some bits from a 1/72 Italeri Mustang. The radio pack that goes behind the pilot is a perfect fit for a cockpit tub when turned upside down. Thinned the walls a bit to make the seat fit. Will turn the Mustang seat into a bang seat & add side console details etc. Then have to decide if I go the whole hog & sand off & rescribe the raised panel lines (never done that before ;) ) Edited July 12, 2006 by Thommo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 I've put about 10 hours into detailing the cockpit now, just adding ridiculously small bits of plastic & metal from my junk box. I'm happy with the progress, esp the scratch-built control column. Using the upturned Mustang radio tub was a good way to go - it provided a good solid base to stick everything to. Paint goes on next :( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmike Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Thommo Way to go mate! Crikey, is the kitchen sink there too? Looking forward to seeing what it looks like after a lick of paint. Johno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo Posted July 19, 2006 Author Share Posted July 19, 2006 ThommoWay to go mate! Crikey, is the kitchen sink there too? Looking forward to seeing what it looks like after a lick of paint. Johno Johno - the nice thing about the Thunderstreak is that when opn the canopy sits way up high on a couple of hyraulic arms, so you can see right into the cockpit. So for once, all the detailing should be worth it. Of course having gone to town on the cockpit I now feel obliged to do the same in the wheel wells, block of the see thru wing intakes..... Sent you kits off on Tuesday a wek ago - they should arrive soon cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo Posted July 21, 2006 Author Share Posted July 21, 2006 Got some paint on the cockpit now - the green is a mix of Tamyia deep green & model master interior green. A bit challenging painting those yellow handles with black stripes in 1/72 Also, should have drybrushed the inst panel BEFORE gluing in place, but because I had to scratch all the surrounding bits, I fixed it in place early to make sure they all lined up. Added some tiny drops of Future to the dial faces for that glass appearance. This might be the start of a jet affair (after I'd decided I'd stick to props) - I love the colourful cockpits in jets :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmike Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Thommo Way to go mate, looks bloody beaut!! :lol: Johno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenshin Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Looking real good! Can't believe thats 1/72, keep up the good work Thommo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raymond Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 your scratchbuilding is ausome, bro' !! :lol: keep it up :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bennygmanuk Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Thommo, That's absolutely amazing work mate. The contrast between the before and after is jaw-dropping. I'll be looking out for progress on this one. Steve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo Posted July 23, 2006 Author Share Posted July 23, 2006 Thanks for the feedback Steve. That is the most scratchbuilding I've ever attempted in a cockpit. I've moved onto the wheel wells now - blocking them off so not see-thru. There's just not enough space in a 1/72 well to add all the plumbing that appears on the real a/c, but I've added some more ribbing & a few other bits to make it look a bit busy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmike Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Thommo This is going to be a pearler once done. Looking forward rto more pics as you progress! :) MikeJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aerofile83 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 thats it i quite, i could never do that in a million years no way, not ever :) casey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mmaker Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 RF-84F was a wonderfull jet,and your model came close. All that scratch work you did,will ends to a masterpiece. What about the painting and markings? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo Posted July 25, 2006 Author Share Posted July 25, 2006 Johno - long way to go yet mate. I think I'm gonna rescribe the panel lines using the raised panel lines as a guide, then sand them off. Never re-scribed a whole model, so fingers crossed :D . Casey - you could do it, it's just a matter of getting some good reference pics off the Web, then patiently cutting up little bits of plastic & wire & sticking them on. Lots of trial & error & repeating things that go wrong plus a bit of CA, a blade & tweezers. Lots of dry fitting before you glue to make sure everything will fit. A little imagination because you can't replicate everything exactly in 1/72, so you have to sort of make it look right. I also have small hands & good eyes for fine work (touch wood!) which helps George - paint & markings????? i'm leaning toward the all metal USAF finish (using Alclad) but there is also a very nice German camo option which appeals. I'll decide after all the building is done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bennygmanuk Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 all metal USAF finish (using Alclad) You'll get yourself thrown out of the AS-12 club doing that you know. :blink: . BTW I'm in the middle of my first re-scribing job too - I recommend Mr Surfacer and Micromesh for hiding slips of the blade. So far, Wings and flat surfaces are easy enough, but Fuselages can be interesting. Steve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 This model comes with v sparse cockpit detail...A fan of Henry Manny III? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo Posted July 26, 2006 Author Share Posted July 26, 2006 A fan of Henry Manny III? Que ???? Who is Henry (sounds like the guy on that TV show Blackbooks to me)? If so, yes, I'm a fan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share Posted August 10, 2006 Well, here is a pic of my first go at re-scribing Looks reasonable, until you look close at the fuselage :D And I'm not even game to show you the underwing drop tanks. Someone in another discussion we had on re-scribing said it sucks the fun out of modeling - I have some sympathy for those sentiments ! I'll probably have to do some more puttying, re-scribing etc on some fuselage lines. Unfortunately I could not find any dymo tape. On the flat surfaces this was OK as I could use a steel ruler to get a pretty straight line. On the fuselage, I used the raised panel line as a scribing guide and did an initial light pass with the back of the exacto blade, then gradually went deeper & cleaned out with the needles. I then sanded off the raised stuff and did more passes with the sharp side of the blade at right angles to the line. This works OK on flat areas, but not so well on curved surfaces. Ah well, I'll soldier on :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmike Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Braver man than me Thommo! I am sure after a lick of paint, it will look beaut though :D :D Johno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share Posted August 10, 2006 Braver man than me Thommo!I am sure after a lick of paint, it will look beaut though :) Johno I just got stupider Johno - off work today, so decided rather than use the crappy bits of thick plastic to cover the 6 or so tiny camera windows in the nose, I'd cut them from clear packaging plastic & CA them in place. 3 hours later.........they're in place, sort of. Now I've convinced myself I need to put something that resembles a camera behind each one :huh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmike Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Crikey Thommo... Next you will be dragging out the dremel and turning new oleo legs :) Keep up the grouse work mate, looks beaut so far :huh: Johno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Que ???? Who is Henry (sounds like the guy on that TV show Blackbooks to me)? If so, yes, I'm a fan :D The late Henry N. Manney III. Writer for Road & Track. He always abbreviated "very" as "v". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 (edited) The late Henry N. Manney III. Writer for Road & Track. He always abbreviated "very" as "v". OooooK - I'd never have guessed that! An update - after spending about 5 hours yesterday making tiny little windows out of packaging plastic to cover the 8 or so camera ports in the nose, installing those then building little camera-ish thingys to go behind each window......I went to the hobby shop today on the off chance they had some of that small window making stuff and they did (Model Master Clear Parts Cement & Window Maker), so I got the last bottle in the shop. So now I'm probably gonna tear out those windows and use this stuff. Anybody used it to make windows before, any tips? - mine are about 3mm X 4mm in size Can the windows then be masked or are they too fragile, so should I make them last thing after painting etc Edited August 11, 2006 by Thommo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmike Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 OooooK - I'd never have guessed that!An update - after spending about 5 hours yesterday making tiny little windows out of packaging plastic to cover the 8 or so camera ports in the nose, installing those then building little camera-ish thingys to go behind each window......I went to the hobby shop today on the off chance they had some of that small window making stuff and they did (Model Master Clear Parts Cement & Window Maker), so I got the last bottle in the shop. So now I'm probably gonna tear out those windows and use this stuff. Anybody used it to make windows before, any tips? - mine are about 3mm X 4mm in size Can the windows then be masked or are they too fragile, so should I make them last thing after painting etc Thommo I used Testors clear parts/window maker on my Challenger kit which went on well but looked bloody crook after it had dried. The stuff thinned towards the middle and did not look any good. In the end I used decals. You cannot mask the stuff and it is common practice to make the windows last, after the model is flat coated. Johno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thommo Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 ThommoI used Testors clear parts/window maker on my Challenger kit which went on well but looked bloody crook after it had dried. The stuff thinned towards the middle and did not look any good. In the end I used decals. You cannot mask the stuff and it is common practice to make the windows last, after the model is flat coated. :huh: Johno Oh - that's not good news. I guess I'll try it out on one window & if it does the same, I'll stick with the fiddly bits of plastic. Thanks Johno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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