HGE Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Just wanted some input on the ROG Mig-3 (1/72 kit) ....Is it a good kit etc? Thanks, Henry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vince14 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 It's a reboxing of the terrible Cap Croix du Sud kit, also released by Italeri. One to avoid, the Marquette kit is better. There's also the new Hobby Boss kit, but I've not seen any reviews of it. Vince Quote Link to post Share on other sites
agboak Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Is the Maquette kit the RPM/Mirage one or the old Frog/Red Star tooling? The latter looks nice but is a long way from current quality: the RPM is said to be good but I've never seen it. But yes - avoid the Cap Du Croix Sud toolings - Italaeri and now apparently Revell. Maybe others..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vince14 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Here's my understanding of the various MiG-3 1/72 kits; Cap Croix du Sud reboxings: Revell/Italeri/Encore/Zvesda. The Encore kit comes with a resin cockpit set. Maquette reboxings: RPM/Alpha. Frog reboxings: Red Star/Emhar. Hobby Boss is (I believe) based on none of the above, but I haven't seen it so I can't comment on the accuracy. The Maquette, when combined with the Encore resin, is the best although there are some accuracy issues. These can be easily corrected should you decide you want to put the effort in. Vince Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I got two Maquettes, but on one side of the fuselage halves, the tail didn't form...not enough plastic in the mold, I guess. And it's in BOTH kits!!! grrrrrrrrr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vince14 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Man, that's bad luck! Vince Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmike Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Here's my understanding of the various MiG-3 1/72 kits;Cap Croix du Sud reboxings: Revell/Italeri/Encore/Zvesda. The Encore kit comes with a resin cockpit set. Maquette reboxings: RPM/Alpha. Frog reboxings: Red Star/Emhar. Hobby Boss is (I believe) based on none of the above, but I haven't seen it so I can't comment on the accuracy. The Maquette, when combined with the Encore resin, is the best although there are some accuracy issues. These can be easily corrected should you decide you want to put the effort in. Vince Just got the Hobby Boss MiG-3 and it looks excellent in the box. Accuracy wise I am not sure as I have no 1:72 scale plans to set it against. :) MikeJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrake Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Just got the Hobby Boss MiG-3 and it looks excellent in the box. Accuracy wise I am not sure as I have no 1:72 scale plans to set it against.:) MikeJ Have to agree with you there Mike, picked up it up laste week and I am very impressed. It is not perfect but certainly looks more like a Mig-3 to my eye then any other offering in 1/72. Of course it should be noted that HobbyBoss aircraft 'kits' are very basic in terms of construction including a one peice fuselage (limited interior). Also if you are looking to the the winter scheme boxart you will need to make a few minor modifications to the kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrake Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Some inbox shots: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grant in West Oz Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Just got the Hobby Boss MiG-3 and it looks excellent in the box. Accuracy wise I am not sure as I have no 1:72 scale plans to set it against.:) MikeJ I scored the Trop Spittie and a Trop Me109G-2 today. Nicely done. The Spittie is getting a rework into a Mk.Vc, but the G2 will be Black 6 in RAAF markings (post 13 Nov. 1942). How about a Hobby Boss Group build? It could run from Xmas eve 2006 to new years day 2007 :D . Your plans are here. two versions of MiG3 plans. G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmike Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 (edited) I am going to build this little MiG-3 real soon to see how it goes. Grant, will bring it in on club night to show you, feel free to bring the others for a show and tell:) I mated up the wing to the fuselage and the join was almost spot on. Looks like just liquid paper is needed. The only issue I see is how careful you will need to be to paint the cockpit and naturally need to do a bit of research to determine the mods for the winter version which is my favourite :D <_< MikeJ Edited September 19, 2006 by madmike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrake Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I am going to build this little MiG-3 real soon to see how it goes. Grant, will bring it in on club night to show you, feel free to bring the others for a show and tell:) I mated up the wing to the fuselage and the join was almost spot on. Looks like just liquid paper is needed. The only issue I see is how careful you will need to be to paint the cockpit and naturally need to do a bit of research to determine the mods for the winter version which is my favourite :D <_< MikeJ Mike, Looking at starting mine too and also in the winter scheme. This page is a must if you want to do that specific winter decal option: http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/whslogan2.html In terms of mods you need to remove the tail wheel doors as by this time they were all fixed into the down position. You will then need to fabricate some sort of canvas to cover up the gear well, not sure of the colour, im thinking a weathered brown. Also it probably has the inert gas pipe on the left side: There may be some other modification with this being one of the last batches, be sure to check the site: http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3 which should provide all the neccessary details. There are also a few things to be careful of with this kit. Firstly the single peice canopy has a seam line, not sure if it is is easily removed but you always have the 3 peice version anyway. Also be careful when painting it noting that the middle section does have a small section of glass at the rear, easily missed! I have also noted that the forward exhaust stack cover should be painted red. The red arrow decals doesn't cover this so you might want to paint it before application or as I am considering using one of the spare star decals to ensure a colour match. HTH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmike Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Cheers for that, bookmarked for future reference. I can put the Italeri MiG-3 at the back of the stash well away and behind the Trumpeter 1:32 MiG-3, which is btw, a lovely kit as well! <_< MikeJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
agboak Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Key points to look for: Is the canopy/top of rear fuselage razor-back or rounded? Looks OK in the photo. Are there big bulges for the engine cylinder banks? Can't see that. Beware winter scheme - This is controversial but I am convinced that the red wing tips often shown are actually green replacements parts. The photo it is based on was taken at an a official ceremony, there is a mix of green and white aircraft but only the one in close-up has dark outer wing panels. And only one wing is shown....I suspect a parade special to make up the numbers. Logically, no-one would camouflage an aircrft in white and then decamouflage it with large red panels. Not in wartime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmike Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) Well I am not that stressed about what the colour could be or ought to be. It is accepted by most decal and kit manufacturers that the wing tips are red, so that is the way forward for me. Interesting though, just how colours can be mis-identified, even after 60 years. Accuracy wise it looks fine, but I am not known as a rivet counter so if my eye tells me it looks like a MiG-3, then I accept that as well. But is that not how good our hobby is? Full of choices :blink: MikeJ Edited September 28, 2006 by madmike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrake Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) Well I am not that stressed about what the colour could be or ought to be. It is accepted by most decal and kit manufacturers that the wing tips are red, so that is the way forward for me. Assuming your using the kit decals for the winter scheme then I don't understand why you would red wing tips because as the link I posted previously indicates that specific aircraft was not delivered with such and the kit instructions also support this. Of course this scheme would of been repainted in a temperate scheme at some stage assuming it survived but it seems improbable that the red wing tips would be added on the winter scheme once in service. Edited September 28, 2006 by Mandrake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Yeah, I've followed the arguments and am also convinced the one so often depicted with solid red outer wing panels had only received replacement wings from a green aircraft. I've seen a really convincing analysis of the b/w photos of it, and the guys who added color to it with red were very likely wrong. I don't know when the color was added to make the famous image, but it's what the decals and kits have used for years without actually studying the shade patterns of the original BW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmike Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 (edited) Assuming your using the kit decals for the winter scheme then I don't understand why you would red wing tips because as the link I posted previously indicates that specific aircraft was not delivered with such and the kit instructions also support this. Of course this scheme would of been repainted in a temperate scheme at some stage assuming it survived but it seems improbable that the red wing tips would be added on the winter scheme once in service. Joe I was generalising, not being specific about a particular decal sheet or kit decals. I should have made that more clear. The link you have provided is safely bookmarked and will be of great use when I get around to building this little MiG. I also will buy another kit to do the other scheme. Very impressed with this kit. MikeJ Edited September 29, 2006 by madmike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrake Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 (edited) JoeI was generalising, not being specific about a particular decal sheet or kit decals. I should have made that more clear. The link you have provided is safely bookmarked and will be of great use when I get around to building this little MiG. I also will buy another kit to do the other scheme. Very impressed with this kit. MikeJ No problems Mike, just didn't want to to make any mistakes. Was also looking at the other option, being equally impressed with the kit, and judging from the scheme (and the site) it might be an early aircraft so not sure if it would of had the exhaust stack covering as decipated in the kit. Not sure if that bothers you but just something to be aware of, would be worth looking into it atleast. Anyway I'm looking to start the HobbyBoss kit very soon, so I'll let you know how I get along if you like. Edited September 29, 2006 by Mandrake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmike Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 No problems Mike, just didn't want to to make any mistakes.Was also looking at the other option, being equally impressed with the kit, and judging from the scheme (and the site) it might be an early aircraft so not sure if it would of had the exhaust stack covering as decipated in the kit. Not sure if that bothers you but just something to be aware of, would be worth looking into it atleast. Anyway I'm looking to start the HobbyBoss kit very soon, so I'll let you know how I get along if you like. Joe Please let us know. I am not sure when I will start this kit. I might build it over the Christmas holidays and see just how long it will take. MikeJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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