regevmo Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I started a scratch build project that most likely would be a long one.It will be an F-16, but i still haven't decided yet on a specific version (big chance it will be a "C" model).My goal is to do a 100% scratch build F-16 using all kind of materials and techniques. The aircraft will be built with options to open different panels and many things will be decided as i will advanced in this build. Every help and comments will be appreciated as i definitely will need it in some areas. The first thing i'm "attacking" is the station number 5 pylon that holds the 300 gallon fuel tank (and ALQ-??? variants).I chose to start with this part because it is common to all versions and it is a relatively a simple shape and will give me the opportunity to test some of the materials. The pylon is shown in this photo - The materials: A plastic plate - Balsa wood - 3 different kind of glue's : 1. Home made glue (Thinner mixed with plastic) 2. Humbrol glue 3. Cyanoacrylate (The thin type) The home made glue was used to glue the first layer of plastic to the balsa wood, and then a second layer of plastic was glued using the humbrol one and the cyano glue to add some strength. This is the part after this process and a little bit of sanding - Few hours after gluing the plastic i found that in some areas the plastic was melting (maybe i used to much glue) so i will use putty to fix it - This is part of the "holding mechanism" (not completed yet) - So this is it, every journey begins in one small step :o Hope to update soon, Regev Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CorsairMan Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Excellent! This is a big project and you are smart to start with small bites! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyWan Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 This could be interesting....:o will be keeping a close eye AW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 This is a most interesting project. Watching with interest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmel Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Wow! What a project! I can't wait to see how you progress. The first thing i'm "attacking" is the station number 5 pylon that holds the 300 gallon fuel tank (and ALQ-??? variants). The Viper carries the ALQ-184, ALQ-131, and ALQ-188. The -188 is shown in the photo. Jake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hazmatt Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Man that thing is going to be sweet. That's one hell of a scratch build project. Will be following! Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Su-34 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Its going to be BiG and AMAZING! Im following this build with intrest.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stelios2000 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 i am with you ......... hope to manage your BIG F-16!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phartycr0c Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 1/20th eh? my thats going to be a big bird! Watching with keen interest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
regevmo Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 Thanks for the kind words guys Wow! What a project! I can't wait to see how you progress.The Viper carries the ALQ-184, ALQ-131, and ALQ-188. The -188 is shown in the photo. Jake Thanks jake, but i think (i need to check it thought) that the ALQ-131 have a different pylon and if so then i will build this pylon also. I'm planning to be able to switch load configuration on the F-16. i am with you .........hope to manage your BIG F-16!!!! Man, with so many ideas i have for this build it should get it own manual (Dash-??? ...) Regev Quote Link to post Share on other sites
regevmo Posted October 13, 2007 Author Share Posted October 13, 2007 New Update - After using putty on some areas and a lot of sanding i started the scribing process using different kind of tools - Right side - Left Side - Bottom - The part is almost done (little things will be added later) and here is a comparison to a 1/72 pylon - Next step is primer painting. Regev Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmel Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Thanks jake, but i think (i need to check it thought) that the ALQ-131 have a different pylon You're correct. The -131 requires a special centerline pylon due to ground clearance. It cannot be carried on the standard pylon you're building. However, that pylon is perfectly acceptable for the ALQ-184 pod. Jake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
regevmo Posted October 26, 2007 Author Share Posted October 26, 2007 New update: Painted all the pylon parts with primer color which showed a few problems with the scribing of the main part, it will be fixed and will be painted again – First try to make the 'Remove Before Flight' tag: First printed the tag (two sides) – Then using self Adhesive Aluminum foil to glue the two sides of the tag – Made a ring and the safety pin from thin copper wire - Here it is inserted to its place on the pylon – Started to work on the 300 gallon fuel tank, first i made the base from balsa wood – Then wrapped the wood with plastic – I'm using milliput (standard grade) as the first layer of filler and I must say I love this stuff, it has two parts that you mix and then after allowing 3-4 hours to dry you can start the sanding – Still a lot of work to do – Regev Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stelios2000 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 incredible !!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PhantomMan Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 incredible !!!!! It's AMAZING!!!! :wub: B) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
regevmo Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 New update – Work on the fuel tank continues, I made some kind of homemade 'mr. surfacer' using green putty and acetone – "painted" the fuel tank with this stuff – Finished sanding and ready for painting – After painting with primer, still need to fix few areas – Next step will be detailing this part. Also made a punch & die set that will be needed in the future (especially in the cockpit ) – This tool was made according to a great guide by user named ModelDay, you can see the guide here – Link Regev Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Penguin Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Now this I want to see.... I'll be following this closely :wub: Looking good so far! :wub: Jamie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PhantomMan Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Looking very good so far! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afterburner Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Dude- I am gonna be glued to this... nice work so far!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
regevmo Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 New update – Made different holes for the connection points and hoses that will be added later – Made the fuel cap and the part that connect the fuel tank to the tail hook – Some of the small parts are ready to be painted – I got the Tamiya 1/32 F-16CJ that will be my guideline trough the building so here a comparison between the 1/20 & the 1/32 – I want to do the screws heads like in the picture below, I tried to do it with cyno glue but the result wasn't good (not consistent size) so if you have any idea on how to do it i will appreciate the help - Regev Quote Link to post Share on other sites
geedubelyer Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Hi Regev, splendid work so far. That thing looks huge.... I want to do the screws heads like in the picture below, I tried to do it with cyno glue but the result wasn't good (not consistent size) so if you have any idea on how to do it i will appreciate the help - Regev Some of the armour guys press rivets out of metal foil. Could you try this? The metal holder for tea-light candles could be used or the closure from the neck of a wine bottle might be suitable. Simply press a blunt tool of some kind like a tooth pick or similar into the foil and remove the resulting bump with a sharp knife. With practice you will have dome shaped rivet (screw head) shaped objects which you can super-glue in place and then add the cross-head slots with the tip of your xacto blade. Good luck and let us know how you get on. HTH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
regevmo Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 Hi Regev, splendid work so far. That thing looks huge....Some of the armour guys press rivets out of metal foil. Could you try this? The metal holder for tea-light candles could be used or the closure from the neck of a wine bottle might be suitable. Simply press a blunt tool of some kind like a tooth pick or similar into the foil and remove the resulting bump with a sharp knife. With practice you will have dome shaped rivet (screw head) shaped objects which you can super-glue in place and then add the cross-head slots with the tip of your xacto blade. Good luck and let us know how you get on. HTH :blink: Thank you sir for the tip, i will try this and update later on how it went. Regev Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 That centerline tank looks right on. Nice job on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
regevmo Posted November 28, 2007 Author Share Posted November 28, 2007 Short update - Started to work on the horizontal stabilizers: First the planning - Then made the base from balsa wood to give it some strength - The two stabilizers need some fixing in some areas and then they will be detailed - I also started to work on the fuselage (well part of it …) - Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grey Ghost 531 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I want to do the screws heads like in the picture below, I tried to do it with cyno glue but the result wasn't good (not consistent size) so if you have any idea on how to do it i will appreciate the help -[Regev Here's an idea that might work in your larger scale: -Punch disks the size of the screw head in think plastic. -Glue them to the tank. -Use white glue or epoxy to make the domed head of the screw on top of the disk. The plastic disk should allow you to make them all the same size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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