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I have the Aries and Zacto kits for the Trump Flanker B (new tooled version) and I am building it basically for referance so I can finish my updated models for FSX including the other Flankers I released some time ago through another publisher. The question is - Does the external etched set from Eduard have mesh FOD gaurds or are they relief etched? I ask as I wish to have the gaurds in the ground position rather than retracted but also would like to be able to see through them to reveal the detail in the intake. I believe the mesh was pretty dense but you should still be able to view what is behind them on the real bird

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The Eduard FOD guards don't fit in the new revised kit (wider intakes). I had also this problem, you can't use them. How things work with the Zactoman set, I don't know.

Here the difference:

FOD1.JPG

Kit part & Eduard part.

Regards,

Ronald

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I believe the mesh was pretty dense but you should still be able to view what is behind them on the real bird
The mesh is very dense. Actually much denser than I could represent for my parts and the grid on my parts is about twice as fine as that on the photo-etch.

Have a look at this picture posted by Flankerman in >>>this<<< thread:

Intake_04.jpg

The mesh is so fine that you can't see the intake faces...

:thumbsup:

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Interesting,

Thanks for the reply's. looks like that FOD guard has been wired up! OK second question - as a compromise is their any instance where they might be only partially deployed?

B.T.W. Chris the new tool Flanker still definatly needs your sets. Why bother with the Aries stuff to improve a model but then use kit parts for corrected details that are still not up to scratch?

I also noticed that a SU30MKK is listed at Trump. Perhaps while you are working on the canopy for the "C" it might be a good idea to also do a version with an offset IRST - also a version for the SU27. That way modellers could convert the "B" into a SU27SM. I know the front panel and a few other bits would have to be altered in the cockpit but it opens a new range for the old birds.

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I've not seen any instances where they are only partially deployed.

Here's an interesting video showing the assembly of an Su-30:

At 2:36 they show the FOD guards being raised and lowered. Note that even though the rear fuselage isn't fully assembled, so the duct is back-lit, how hard it is to see through the mesh.

I made sure to fully extend the front windscreen on the Su-27UB canopy I am working on so that I can use the same vacformed part for the Su-30MKK kit (or other variants). I will likely release the canopy for the Su-30 with the offset IRST when the kit comes out (assuming Trumpeter doesn't use my Su-27UB canopy to 're-tool' their Su-30Mkk before releasing it :thumbsup: ).

Unfortunately when I did the canopy for the Flanker B I ended the glazing where the IRST platform begins rather than fully extending it so unless I re-tool the pattern it can't easily be used to make a Su-27SM...

:)

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Interesting,

Thanks for the reply's. looks like that FOD guard has been wired up!

It is just a piece or wire threaded through the mesh to make a 'handle'....

I just used it to lift the FOD guard to the half deployed, then the fully deployed position.

If you go to the thread linked to by Zactoman, you will see the whole sequence......

As others have said, you can't see through the mesh because it is so fine, it is at an angle and it is dark behind it.

The mesh is only raised (deployed) when the engine is running and there is weight on the wheels - i.e. when the aircraft is on the ground, taxying.

I suspect that it can be manually overidden for maintenance - at least that's the excuse I use on my Trmpeter Flanker - where I have one intake with the screen deployed and the other blanked off with a red-painted board......

trumpflank_34.jpg

Ken

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Another thing too, regarding the red wire holding it up. The Russians are known for common sense repairs, and that would certainly qualify.

When Russian cosmonauts and American Astronauts were traing, an American remarked how NASA spent literally millions on a ink pen that could write in zero G.

The Russians simply used pencils.

Just a thought, keep in mind I am ignorant of aerodynamics to a point.

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Another thing too, regarding the red wire holding it up. The Russians are known for common sense repairs, and that would certainly qualify.

When Russian cosmonauts and American Astronauts were traing, an American remarked how NASA spent literally millions on a ink pen that could write in zero G.

The Russians simply used pencils.

Just a thought, keep in mind I am ignorant of aerodynamics to a point.

The 'Russian Pencil' thing is an urban myth ....... you wouldn't want graphite dust floating round your capsule..... :wub:

Great story though - why let facts get in the way..... ;)

Ken

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