Exhausted Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 My order arrived at the FFL dealer but I won't be picking this up until tomorrow. You may recognize it. I had to get the wooden furniture because I care so very much for the aesthetic. With this rifle I will have reason to buy a membership to the 1,000 yd range north of Austin. I will also be calling the pops-in-law to set up a pig or deer hunt with this baby. To prepare to fire this I'm going straight to the world's very best source of shooting instruction: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dylan Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 nice. I am seriously thing of getting one myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rustywelder Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Very nice! One of the finest rifles I've ever shot. I would sorely love to get one my self. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Awesome rifle! Being a firearm enthusiast and wanting a vintage rifle set up I'm looking into building something very similar to what US Marine Corps GSGT Carlos Hathcock II used in Viet Nam: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tankcommander Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Very nice, I have been a fan of wood furniture. It's much nicer then black plastic. Enjoy! TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 I could have saved about $150 by getting the green or black polymer, but the wood was just too sexy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CorsairMan Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 My order arrived at the FFL dealer but I won't be picking this up until tomorrow. You may recognize it. I had to get the wooden furniture because I care so very much for the aesthetic. With this rifle I will have reason to buy a membership to the 1,000 yd range north of Austin. I will also be calling the pops-in-law to set up a pig or deer hunt with this baby. Very nice! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Thanks. I picked this up today and I was surprised to see a new compensator on it. The compensator is better than the flash suppressor pictured, but aesthetically, I would have liked to know before I bought it, what I was getting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 Literally two hours after I broke down and ordered 200 168-grain rounds I found out the weapon is sighted for 147-grainers! Errrggg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk10 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 In the fall of 1963, I was in Basic Training at FT. Leonard Wood, Missouri (AKA Fort Lost in the Woods, Misery), where we were initially issued the M1 Garand which we fired for record. A week later, the M1 was taken away from us (making us the last unit in the US Army to qualify with the M1)and we were issued the "POS" M14. What we didn't know that a true POS was waiting a few years down the road (IE the AR15/M16). To this day, if someone were to give me an M16 I would swap it and add money for either an M1 or an M14 (I know you can hit and knock out a target at 500 yards - I defy you to do that regularly with the M16). Exhausted Shouldn't take you more than 18 to 21 rounds to do a 300 yard battle sight setting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 "THIS IS MY RIFLE; THIS IS MY GUN...!!!" *Couldn't resist! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I've got wood..... Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) Is that a surplus sling, Netz? What do you guys know about scope rings? I found this scope ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/Primary-Arms-NEW-4-14X44-FFP-Scope-ACSS-HUD-308-223-Reticle-PA4-14XFFP308-/141380950835?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20eaf61b33 ) and I am attaching it to this rail ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MAAL2W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AJXUKDD490V61 ). I'm looking here for rings, but I'm so drawn in by the Chinese offerings at 1/12 the price. Does anyone know the quality of Chinese 30mm rings? http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=scope+rings+30mm&_sop=15&_from=R40%7CR40%7CR40%7CR40%7CR40%7CR40&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC1.A0.H0.Xscope+rings+30mm+low&_nkw=scope+rings+30mm+low&_sacat=0 How do these look, for buying American, and also will they fit on a Picatinny rail system? http://www.amazon.com/Weaver-Tactical-Rings-Matte-Black/dp/B003RC3BC2 Edited January 14, 2015 by Exhausted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) The Sling came with the gun, so I assume it's new manufacturer, either real G.I. or repo. This is one of the SSA M40 Commemorative's with a period (but not USMC) correct Redfield scope (it could have happened). Here's the route I would take on your M1A. Springfield mount (3rd or 4th gen) I found this Ebay auction, follow it I would not go over $100 on this (that's what they sold for new). I recommend these mounts over the cheaper copies, or a mount that may only attach with 1 bolt, if your foundation is week you'll never have good accuracy. Rings; I think these will be better rings as you can tighten them with a torque wrench (35 inch Lbs), and they are not too expensive. Scope; these Falcon Menace scopes are good for a lower priced scope, and similar to the one you posted, I'm not sure of the quality of that scope,but one thing I don't like about it is all the clutter inside the reticle, there's just too much going on there. This package comes in $100 cheaper than your list, and that's costing the scope mount at $100. no Chinese junk. If you want to budget a bit more the Falcon also comes in higher power and larger objective lens (will bring in more light in low light conditions) HTH Curt Edited January 14, 2015 by Netz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Literally two hours after I broke down and ordered 200 168-grain rounds I found out the weapon is sighted for 147-grainers! Errrggg They will just shoot a bit higher, it won't be noticeable till out past 300yrds or so. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the advice, but those rings don't come in 'low'. What do you think about these rings? They have 6 points of contact, and are also US made. http://www.amazon.com/Weaver-Tactical-Rings-Matte-Black/dp/B003RC3BC2 BTW, I chose the scope because of the bullet drop compensator. It's similar to an ACOG (used it in the Marines) but it's in 308. All the lines to the left and right of it are either range finders or windages adjustments for running/jogging/walking targets. I think we have slightly different expectations from our scopes here, with yours being closer to a true sniper purpose. EDIT: If you're curious about the scope's functions, here's a video tutorial from the scope manufacturer that sold me on the scope: Edited January 14, 2015 by Exhausted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) To this day, if someone were to give me an M16 I would swap it and add money for either an M1 or an M14 (I know you can hit and knock out a target at 500 yards - I defy you to do that regularly with the M16). Well rifle qual in the Marines isn't the same as combat, but the easiest points to earn with the M16 are the final ten shots at 500 yards. One of the pit pullers was shocked when I shattered the tee holding up my last shot spotter @500 (my fourth time to qual). But I wouldn't necessarily bet my life on 5.56 rounds, so I'm with you. Edited January 14, 2015 by Exhausted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Smith Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I've got the 9222 "Fully Loaded" version. Fantastic rifle. I loves me some vintage wood! Here's a few more of my "Toys". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Just one surplus frag? I wouldn't buy a single one at $200 per tax stamp, considering each is only used once. What if you go around collecting shrapnel and reassemble them into grenades? Then would you need a gun-smithing license? :wacko: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) I'd do some searching around for reviews on that scope,I don't know your experience with long range or scoped rifle use, but there's allot going on in that scope, and it's geared for a human target, what happens when ranging a pig? Also shooting 1000yrds, you will play hell finding your impact point if you are not on target. Scope rings,it's best to get your scope and mount 1st, then see how high you need to go with the rings, I know these were just product pictures, but the Weaver low's and the Kley mediums look about the same, they really need to give some spec's on the height. You need to 1st check your eye relief, then check the clearance between the objective bell and the front of your mount (and the forearm of the rifle) to make sure they clear. That 44mm objective is not too big so you shouldn't have too many problems, my 56mm just clears the mount by less than 1/4 inch, same with the forearm.You need to keep the scope as low/close to the rifle as possible. Curt Edited January 15, 2015 by Netz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 What a video! I'm going to have to show that to my friends. My experience is 3 years using ACOGs and 2 using irons when I was in the military. As a hobbyist I've fired using iron sights for about 4 years now; mainly at targets between 200 and 700 meters. My existing collection is made up of the new M1A, a WASR/10 bastardized AK, and a 1946 issue M44 in decent shape. I figured the M1A would be best for taking advantage of the Central Texas deer season, and I also chose it because veterans be liking the hell out of some battle rifles. As you can see, none of these are the cream of the crop at anything, much less for long-range shooting, but decent shooters can certainly make them work well. For the scope and rings, I think the scope I selected is a safe choice as a first because of the cost, because I feel like I understand the functions and because it's a hassle-free return on Ebay. The eye relief is about 4.5ish inches (off the top of my head) but I'm not sure if the recital is stationary when you move your point of view slightly to the side. With that return policy I'm willing to risk it and report my findings after 100 shots or so. Going from the pictures I found for this setup, it seems like the scope will easily clear with any size rings. I'm mostly concerned with tightness and ability to take the punishment of the .308. I think this picture features medium rings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I found a few through the scope pictures searching around, it's not as bad as I imagined. I also found another 3rd Gen Springfield mount on E-Bay, $139 buy it now. not sure if that's what you want, but I think it's one of the better mounts out there. I just happened upon that the other day, I subscribed to his channel, he's funnier than heck, and has allot of fun making those vids.Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Smith Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Just one surplus frag? I wouldn't buy a single one at $200 per tax stamp, considering each is only used once. What if you go around collecting shrapnel and reassemble them into grenades? Then would you need a gun-smithing license? Think paperweight. Local Army/Navy store sold them years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 So what is the process to getting grenades from armory to surplus store? Are they only selling the blue training rounds or do they actually 'demil' the live ones? In a different time, 1996, I was in the fourth grade in Pensacola. One day I flat out asked if I could bring a dummy grenade in order to help satisfy the curiosity of my male classmates. My teacher said yes and the next day I brought it over and passed it around class. I think back on it and say "WTF" were we thinking? Then I laugh maniacally about getting away with something no one can expect to get away with today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) The slugger has evolved a bit. I'm told it's grandmother was a monkey *snickers*. I added the Sadlak mount, cheekweld riser, a sling and the Primary Arms 4 x 14 zoom scope. Total weight is about 17 pounds, which is twice that of the M16A2 I am more used to. When I woke up this morning, my rifle had a recoil dampening rubber butt pad, however I shot terrible 3 inch groups at 100 yards with it for some reason (See Pic 2). Once I wasted a bunch (about 70) of rounds trying to get a good zero and shoot a good group I took the butt pad off and found I could shoot much better without it. See Pic 3 for the sub 1-in 3rnd group I shot immediately after removing the butt pad. I believe this makes me a member of the sub-1 MOA club !!! Pic 1 Pic 2, 3 rounds in 3 inches with butt pad @ 100yds Pic 3, 3 rounds in 3/4 inch (5/8 when measured in center point of impact) without butt pad @ 100yds Edited March 16, 2015 by Exhausted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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