gonzalo Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Well this might get interesting! http://ipad.aol.com/article/2014/08/28/official-2-tank-columns-from-russia-enter-ukraine/20953841/?icid=maing-grid7%257Cresponsive-tablet%257Cdl1%257Csec1_lnk2%2526pLid%253D521813 Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Well this might get interesting! http://ipad.aol.com/article/2014/08/28/official-2-tank-columns-from-russia-enter-ukraine/20953841/?icid=maing-grid7%257Cresponsive-tablet%257Cdl1%257Csec1_lnk2%2526pLid%253D521813 No they didn't, they just "were lost". Per the head Capo in charge. What a crazy world we live in. Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Well, I'm shocked! -Gregg Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 No they didn't, they just "were lost". Per the head Capo in charge. What a crazy world we live in. :rofl:/> Link to post Share on other sites
82Whitey51 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) ...and no body cares. Perfect timing by these guys. Wait until the U.S. and key allies are war beaten from "defeating" Al Queda, along with the uprising of ISIS...and roll on into a sovereign country at your whim because you know there's nothing they will do to stop you. I'm really surprised the Chinese haven't rolled on Taiwan yet. Good thing their economy is booming... Edited August 28, 2014 by 82Whitey51 Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Perfect timing by these guys. Wait until the U.S. and key allies are war beaten from "defeating" Al Queda, along with the uprising of ISIS...and roll on into a sovereign country at your whim because you know there's nothing they will do to stop you. I'm really surprised the Chinese haven't rolled on Taiwan yet. Good thing their economy is booming... Plus football season starts in a few days... Putin could not have timed it better. The average American will not even notice what has happened until at least Week 6 or 7. Go Pats! Edited August 28, 2014 by 11bee Link to post Share on other sites
Horrido Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Chinese are too busy building lighthouses on disputed islands. Taiwan isn't going anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites
SBARC Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I suspect this has been their game all along. Once they took back Crimea and their warm water port......it was only natural Russia would open up a land corridor to their warm water port. But it is very strange they would do this invasion rather than build a bridge on the southern tip of Crimea by Kerch, Crimea and Taman, Russia. I guess Russia needs to look tough to give the rest of their territories a little lesson in intimidation. The more troubling side to this is why did Russia need to take back Crimea when the Ukrainians were happy to lease that area to them on a long term lease? Either Russia enjoys intimidating their little poorly armed neighbours......or there is a bigger game and Russia needed to make Crimea part of Russia or perhaps Russia is too poor to afford the lease. Building a bridge between Kerch, Crimea and Taman, Russia to supply the warm water fleet would be fine in peace time, but that bridge would be a prime target if there was a larger war. So does Russia have a bigger game in motion or are they just keen to get all their warm water port into more of a war stance (ie: in Russian territory and under Russian control) so they are always prepared for the worst. I really don't see how Russia could gain from a large conflict if that is their game. They should be focused on selling their resources and making money that way...building their economy etc blah blah blah. The Western countries seem to understand oh-so-well the damage a large war does to an economy...hence tueir reluctance to go into Ukraine. Link to post Share on other sites
CorsairMan Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 This is sucking way too much coverage from the Brangelina wedding announcement! Priorities, people! Link to post Share on other sites
Horrido Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 On top of that, it's not like it wouldn't be easy to close the Bosphorous and Dardenelles to all Russian shipping. Link to post Share on other sites
SBARC Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 On top of that, it's not like it wouldn't be easy to close the Bosphorous and Dardenelles to all Russian shipping. Quite true indeed. The goofy part is that in 20 - 50 years....Russia will have plenty of options for warm water ports. Link to post Share on other sites
SBARC Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 This is sucking way too much coverage from the Brangelina wedding announcement! Priorities, people! I thought her wedding dress was a bit understated... Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Reset button? Link to post Share on other sites
SBARC Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Reset button? You talking about her dress or his suit or Russia? Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 ...and no body cares. Perfect timing by these guys. Wait until the U.S. and key allies are war beaten from "defeating" Al Queda, along with the uprising of ISIS...and roll on into a sovereign country at your whim because you know there's nothing they will do to stop you. I'm really surprised the Chinese haven't rolled on Taiwan yet. Good thing their economy is booming... Good points. Especially regarding Taiwan. In addition to what you've stated, these kinds of events happen when the occupant of the White House and/or Congress is perceived to be weak by tyrants of the world. Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 You talking about her dress or his suit or Russia? :woot.gif:/> I think Ukraine/Russia will have a happier ending than that marriage Link to post Share on other sites
SBARC Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 It is rather amusing from a strategic point of view the level of grief Russia is getting from taking over the Crimea. Their economy has taken a hit and they are dithering around with Ukraine doing something that should have been a 1 or 2 week operation in 1939. Stalin must be rolling over in his grave at the way Putin has mucked this up. Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 It is rather amusing from a strategic point of view the level of grief Russia is getting from taking over the Crimea. Their economy has taken a hit and they are dithering around with Ukraine doing something that should have been a 1 or 2 week operation in 1939. Stalin must be rolling over in his grave at the way Putin has mucked this up. Putin does have an ace in the hole. Winter is fast approaching and with Europe being heavily dependent on Russian energy, it will be interesting to see how aggressive our European allies will be in levying truly meaningful sanctions against Russia. The ones that have been implemented to date obviously haven't had any real effect. Link to post Share on other sites
SBARC Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Winter...Russia's most loyal ally. Link to post Share on other sites
Jinxter13 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Oh yes were gonna have a Whing ding, from this bunker underground, it's just a dugout that my dad did, in case the reds...............anyone remember when they rolled tanks in to Czechoslovakia or Poland?...similar only on a smaller scale. Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Stark Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you. I liked Canada's tweet yesterday about Russian soldiers who kept getting "lost" and entering into Ukraine. Link to post Share on other sites
Horrido Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I thought her wedding dress was a bit understated... Seems outclassed by the gal sporting FS 36118 at 2 o'clock. Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalo Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 Seems outclassed by the gal sporting FS 36118 at 2 o'clock. Link to post Share on other sites
SBARC Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Seems outclassed by the gal sporting FS 36118 at 2 o'clock. Priceless. Link to post Share on other sites
SBARC Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you. I liked Canada's tweet yesterday about Russian soldiers who kept getting "lost" and entering into Ukraine. This was amusing......it is hard to respect a military that has no clue where they are regarding borders. Link to post Share on other sites
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