dedalus Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I have this kit listed on e-bay and I'm surprised at how many people are contacting me from countries outside the U.S. asking (persistently) for me to agree to ship outside of the U.S. So this makes me wonder about the availability of this kit. Is it scarce or out of production. We're talking about modern countries, not third world or war-torn countries. I checked and I don't see it in a few quick searches at some of the usual online retailers, but I haven't gotten too detailed with my searches. Thanks, Mike Todd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beingthehero Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 If you're listing it for a lower-than-usual price, I'd imagine you'd get a lot of interest. The GWH Fulcrums are fairly pricey, but thankfully you get what you pay for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dedalus Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 I'm told the other versions are easy to find, but it's just this one that's hard to find. That's what I'm curious about. Thanks, Mike Todd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I think the Luftwaffe one was a "Limited edition" Its got all the corrected parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beingthehero Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I think the Luftwaffe one was a "Limited edition" Its got all the corrected parts. I thought only the very first run of the late 9-12 had incorrect parts, and all boxings of the 9-12 - standard and Luftwaffe- has the right parts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gb_madcat_sl Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I thought only the very first run of the late 9-12 had incorrect parts, and all boxings of the 9-12 - standard and Luftwaffe- has the right parts? The initial 9-13 box also had the incorrect parts. I don't think they re-released the late 9-12 though. All I can find in my LHS are the early ones. But it does makes sense as, IIRC, the early 9-12 kit has the parts to make a late 9-12. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkKnight Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 The initial 9-13 box also had the incorrect parts. I don't think they re-released the late 9-12 though. All I can find in my LHS are the early ones. But it does makes sense as, IIRC, the early 9-12 kit has the parts to make a late 9-12. Mark I thought the 9-13 was correct, how do I tell if I don't have corrected parts in mine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gb_madcat_sl Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Compare sprue I. The corrected parts have larger tanks as can be seen by them exceeding the length of the runner. Incorrect parts found in the 9-13 kit. Corrected parts found in the 9-12 early kit. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mogin Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Typical delivered price of a gwh fulcrum 9-12 down here in Australia is about AU$85. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 You absolutely kill your sales by only shipping to the US. Those bids increase your final sale amount. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Okay, here's the deal with the GWH Mig-29 9-12s (as explained to me not too long ago here on this forum). The first release of the 9-12 Late kit was the original kit with the incorrect parts (this one has never been re-released and is now OOP). The 9-12 Early kit has new tooled corrected parts. The 9-12 Late with Luftwaffe markings (this is the limited edition kit) has all the corrected parts. And, as far as I know, the 9-13 has correct parts. Never heard of that one coming out with wrong parts. Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkKnight Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I have the 9-13 the fuel tanks look like above are they wrong? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gb_madcat_sl Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I have the 9-13 the fuel tanks look like above are they wrong? Yeah. Those are the undersized tanks. You probably also have the slightly undersized missile pylons as well. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Yeah. Those are the undersized tanks. You probably also have the slightly undersized missile pylons as well. Mark Damn! I just checked my 9-13 and it seems I have the incorrect tanks. Is it massively noticeable? What about the missile rails? Would Eduard be an option? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Damn! I just checked my 9-13 and it seems I have the incorrect tanks. :bandhead2:/> Is it massively noticeable? What about the missile rails? Would Eduard be an option? If it required a thread like this to make you aware of it, then I'm going say that no, it's not massively noticeable! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I believe it's part numbers 61 & 62 - the lower aft engine nacelle parts - were corrected as well as the tanks and pylons. On the original release there were some small intake scoops that were like 2mm too far forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VMI Vince Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 The first releases of the 9-12 late actually had the 9-13 fuselage, which is a much bigger deal than the size of some rarely-carried wing tanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 The first releases of the 9-12 late actually had the 9-13 fuselage, which is a much bigger deal than the size of some rarely-carried wing tanks. Huh? I've got a 9-12 (the very first release) and it's a 9-12. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 At a point in the production cycle they mixed up and had 9.13 fuselage instead on 9.12 in the 9.12 late boxing. But it wasn't right at the start of 9.12 late production, a bit later on. It was fairly quickly sorted out and those that got 9.13 fuselage could of course get it replaced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Oh I seem to remember that now that you mention it. I just got my 9-12 last year, so it was a later boxing. Also got the limited edition German boxing. It includes changed antennas to reflect the NATO standard avionics fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gb_madcat_sl Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I was at my LHS yesterday and managed to check some of the kits that were in stock. It seems that the later batches of 9-13 kits have the correct tanks and pylons. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I have two 9-13's, both wrong. My anger knows no beginnings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gb_madcat_sl Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) Comparison photos for your perusal. Pylons. Old parts above, corrected parts below. Wing tanks. Old parts on the left, corrected parts on the right. Engine parts are the same. Mark Edited April 27, 2015 by gb_madcat_sl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I was at my LHS yesterday and managed to check some of the kits that were in stock. It seems that the later batches of 9-13 kits have the correct tanks and pylons. Mark Mark, how can you/I tell which batches of the GWH 9-13 have the correct parts? I'll be purchasing one soon and I'd like to get it right. Thanks! Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I don't think there is any way of knowing other than opening the box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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