CorsairMan Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) We did it in the spring of 2013 We had 30 builds started and about 15 finished models I'd call that a success! We did have fun with it so maybe we do this again? But how about a twist? BENT WING BIRD BUILD II: CORSAIRS UNLIMITED The idea is: Any "Corsair"* Any scale Any markings Any variant Any medium What ifs? Why not? *This is the "Unlimited" portion: ANY airplane called the Corsair is ok. F4U, A7, even the O2U if you wish... all good. I am thinking of January 1 2015 - June 30 2015 I'll moderate - if someone wants to help me mod this thing, the more the merrier! Edited July 29, 2014 by CorsairMan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I have no GB's currently in the works and I only have interest in the "big kit" group build recently proposed, so I am in for a Corsair GB. I have always wanted to do a night fighting Corsair from the Korean War...I don't have a kit yet, but I am sure I can source one out fairly easy between now and January. Perhaps a COIN bird from one of South American nations would trip my trigger as well. Sounds good to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CorsairMan Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 I need to put in a poll.. .forgot to do it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niart17 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Or open it a little more and make it all bent wings. So a Stuka would fit, perhaps an F-4 (if you consider those bent wings...could see that either way) some inverted gull wing designs like the old Stinson...things like that. It would be cool to see all the different aircraft that use "bent wings" Just a thought. Don't get me wrong, I do love the corsair so that would be a cool group build as well. Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
White Wolf Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Or open it a little more and make it all bent wings. So a Stuka would fit, perhaps an F-4 (if you consider those bent wings...could see that either way) some inverted gull wing designs like the old Stinson...things like that. It would be cool to see all the different aircraft that use "bent wings" Just a thought. Don't get me wrong, I do love the corsair so that would be a cool group build as well. Bill I agree, most people will probably end up building Corsairs anyway but it would be cool to see other types. How about a Mitsubishi Ka-14, the ancestor of the famous Zero? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Fündekals has some F4U decals currently underway, including some that NOBODY has ever done remotely correctly. We're breaking some new historical ground with this one. I'm still working on the artwork, so it'll be a few weeks before they see the light of day, but you'll be blown away! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CorsairMan Posted July 25, 2014 Author Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Jennings... looking forward to the decals! Maybe I can cajole you into some form of donation or sponsorship? :)/> As for expanding the GB - there are plenty of luftwaffe GBs out there and having only 'gull wings' might be a bit esoteric... but anything is possible if there is a BWB III Poll question is now up. I've always thought the "no" option is pointless. If someone is not interested in the GB, they can hit the 'back' button and move on to another thread. Edited July 26, 2014 by CorsairMan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom G Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) I missed out on the last one and the F4U is one of my favorite aircraft. Count me in. Tom Edited July 25, 2014 by Tom G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neo Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 To add a poll edit your first topic in full editor you should see the add poll option. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I've never been a member of a GB here. Now there are three that I really want to join. Bent wings. Big kits, and the newly proposed exotic cars. I'm strictly a one build at a time guy, so I'll have to wait until I see the GB schedule for next year, then make my official decisions. Can't see me building anything but my 3rd Tamiya 1/48 scale F4U. This one will be the -1D still in it's sealed box. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 As long as the A-7 is good then I plan on playing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mungo1974 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I'm in....work schedule allowing. crapped out on the F4U and Bad Guys GB's due a lack of bench time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) Heck no. The reason I didn't participate in the last built because it was called "Bent Wings" but I couldn't build a Stuka, P.11c, B7A2, or any other bird with bent wings. Why not open it up to all bent wing birds, or call it the Corsair build? Edited July 26, 2014 by Exhausted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vince14 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Heck no. The reason I didn't participate in the last built because it was called "Bent Wings" but I couldn't build a Stuka, P.11c, B7A2, or any other bird with bent wings. Why not open it up to all bent wing birds, or call it the Corsair build? I agree. Unless it's opened up to allow other gull-winged types, I can't really see the point of having another Corsair GB less than a year after the last one. Vince Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CorsairMan Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Not sure how this or any other GB has prevented anyone from building anything. Phantom asked if anyone wanted to moderate a future GB. I'm willing to do so with another Bent Wings Build in 2015. If there is no interest well then, I can do other things with my time. I believe you are both free to nominate and moderate another GB that suits your interests. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) Yes, this is true but aircraft with bent wings are not restricted to the Corsair, are they? A bent wing GB should include aircraft that have bent wings, not just Corsairs. This one is so off base that is only directed at planes called Corsair, like the A-7 which doesn't even have bent wings. At best it has folded wings. My question is why not open it up to all aircraft with bent wings, like the title suggests? I was a little disappointed that I couldn't participate last time because of all the bent wing birds I have available, a Corsair was not one that I actually wanted to build at that point. Edit: In other words, I would be happy to participate if I could have a crack at some other bent wing birds. Edited July 28, 2014 by Exhausted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vince14 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Not sure how this or any other GB has prevented anyone from building anything. Phantom asked if anyone wanted to moderate a future GB. I'm willing to do so with another Bent Wings Build in 2015. If there is no interest well then, I can do other things with my time. I believe you are both free to nominate and moderate another GB that suits your interests. No need to get your underwear in a twist. It's just that, in my opinion, I don't think a second Corsair GB will be as successful as the first because not enough time has lapsed between them. Some of the people who participated last time won't bother this time, because they'll have already built a Corsair recently. Expanding it out to allow other gull-winged aircraft will help ensure there is more interest. If you get 25 positive votes then you'll have another GB - if not then you won't. As for myself moderating, well I'm currently co-modding the Great War GB (we've had a good start, already 10 builds in progress) and I ran the Out of Africa GB as well (pretty successful, we had 22 completed builds). Vince Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I'm definitely in! I have a 1/48 Tamiya Birdcage with lots of AM that I've been telling myself I need to get to. This GB will definitely be a motivation. Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CorsairMan Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 No need to get your underwear in a twist.... Passive aggressive much, sweetie? How's that working for you? Anyway, I thought it was well known that the Corsair was called the Bent Wing Bird - so I used a play on that in the first GB and called it the bent wing build. I was wrong - it may not be well known - my mistake. This was always going to be a Corsair build so I have changed the title to create less confusion out there. At any rate - looks like you will win this one as there are only a couple takers aside from me. If it doesn't get any interest, I will be more than happy to moderate another BWB in the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vince14 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Passive aggressive much, sweetie? How's that working for you? :rolleyes:/> Anyway, I thought it was well known that the Corsair was called the Bent Wing Bird - so I used a play on that in the first GB and called it the bent wing build. I was wrong - it may not be well known - my mistake. This was always going to be a Corsair build so I have changed the title to create less confusion out there. My point is that you've had a Corsair GB in the recent past, so you either need to expand it out to other types or wait until a reasonable timeframe has passed until having another one. From my experience people who participate in GB's are either passionate about the subject or see it as an opportunity to build something different, and the latter tend to heavily outnumber the former. Out of Africa was a very successful GB, but if I suggested having another one in the next six months it'd be nowhere near as popular because the 'build something different' guys have scratched that itch recently. That's why I suggested expanding it to cover other gull-wing types, such as the Stuka and the Mitsubishi A5 'Claude', as that will help bring in the 'BSD' crowd. In fact, Exhausted has already stated that he'd participate if the scope was wider. Having said that, it's your GB idea and if you want it just to cover the F-4 Corsair then that's your prerogative. At any rate - looks like you will win this one as there are only a couple takers aside from me. It isn't about 'winning'. It makes no difference to me whether 'Bent Wing Bird Build II' is the most successful GB ever on ARC or if it never gets off the ground. You may not be able to see it, but Exhausted and I were trying to give suggestions that would make the GB more acceptable to a wider audience given that the last Corsair GB was so recent. If it doesn't get any interest, I will be more than happy to moderate another BWB in the future. And that's a good thing. Suggest 'BWB GB II' in a couple of years and you'll probably get a highly positive response, because the 'BSD' crowd may well think 'Heck, it's been a while since I built a Corsair'. Vince Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 This post is to see if there is enough interest in a Corsair GB. For me I would do an A-7. If your interested in something else, then think of what kind of GB YOU wish to moderate and start a thread. That is the nice thing about GBs. you can join or not join any GB you want. Of the 4 CURRENTLY running I have participated in 3. The last one just does nothing for me but I am not going to bash it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vince14 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) This post is to see if there is enough interest in a Corsair GB. For me I would do an A-7. If your interested in something else, then think of what kind of GB YOU wish to moderate and start a thread. That is the nice thing about GBs. you can join or not join any GB you want. Of the 4 CURRENTLY running I have participated in 3. The last one just does nothing for me but I am not going to bash it. I'm not 'bashing' the idea at all. I'm suggesting that, given we already had a Corsair GB less than a year ago, either expanding the scope or delaying it would probably make the GB more popular - Exhausted has already stated that he would enter if the the scope was widened. CorsairMan can either take that advice or leave it as he so chooses. If he gets his 25 votes then fantastic, I hope he and all who participate enjoy building Corsairs. If he doesn't then, well, he can always try again another time. We see this in all of the threads regarding proposed GBs - suggestions as to what is and isn't allowed, and then people deciding if they want to participate. I'm not sure why this thread should be any different. Vince Edited July 29, 2014 by vince14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevehnz Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Well I missed the last Corsair build though I've just done one for the AusNZ build. I've got a few Corsairs in stock & maybe with the new Xtradecal sheet, I could find another Kiwi one to do, or maybe a FAA one, or maybe a Death Rattlers -4 or maybe.... I'm sure you get the drift by now. :) Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) I tried to help this build take off, but my suggestion to include a variety of aircraft featuring "bent wings" over aircraft that don't such as the O2U and A-7 , doesn't have any traction with CorsairMan. The standard by which you define bent wing bird is illogical. The A-7, which has a defined adhedral, and one continuous angle is acceptable, yet a B7A2 Grace, which has a nearly identical wing type as an F4U is not. I am not slamming you on any personal level, so please don't take it that way. I just don't see why biplanes, with relatively straight wings, meet your standards when the majority inverted gull-wing aircraft don't. Edited July 30, 2014 by Exhausted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tosouthern66 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) I'm in and I am willing to help mod it, if I'm still alive and sane! Wait I aint sane!!! lol As far as the aircraft type or GB name goes. I think if its a Bent Wing Build we need to keep it to all A/C with Bent wings. If we are limitting it to the Corsair then the name needs to be something along Corsair GB. The Stuka was a bent wing bird as well! Just my 2 cents. Edited July 30, 2014 by tosouthern66 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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