K5054NZ Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Hi all, The title says it all. I'd love to build a civil Bell 212/UH-1N from here in New Zealand that my father used to be taken to oil platforms in, and would like to know which is the best kit to get in 1/72. Also, is the 1/48 Italeri kit any good? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Hi all,The title says it all. I'd love to build a civil Bell 212/UH-1N from here in New Zealand that my father used to be taken to oil platforms in, and would like to know which is the best kit to get in 1/72. Also, is the 1/48 Italeri kit any good? Italeri is the best kit in both 1/72 and 1/48. In fact the 1/48 kit is basically a scaled up version of the 1/72 kit. The only issue is the nose, which most agree "just ain't right." However, especially in 1/72, it's not that noticeable to me. Good luck and post pics of your build! Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Hi, like Ray said, Italeri is the best kit, fujimi is not so good, and yes, the big issue is the nose, it just aint right, hope somebody could make a new nose for it, the 72 scale lacks of tail boom rivets and other major details, but they can be made scratch, i am currently working on the 72 scale Bell 412 and scratching him like crazy.... if you want sort of a ``look like a real one´´ model, you have to scratch build a lot, and i recommend to buy the Eduard photoetched set, it really improves the model a lot. Greetings. Rod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeejeeZ Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Hi Zac, Agree on Rod's and Ray's posts: the 1:72 Italeri 212 (also released by Revell) would be the best choice. If you'd go for a Bell 212 as used on offshore flights, you might want to add the emergency pop out floats that are quite noticable on offshore 212's. http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/acdata_212_en.php These were included in the Revell 1:72 Bundesgrenzschutz 212/ UH1N. Revell has just announced a rerelease of the 1:72 212, http://www.revell.de/index.php?id=210&...=04654&sp=1 , maybe the pop out floats (though not shown on the pic in this link) will be included again. I would also guess on an offshore bird you would need the nose radar which is included in the 1:72 Italeri kit of the Bell 412/CH146. HTH, Good luck! Gertjan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loach Driver Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Ray is correct about the Italeri UH-1N/Bell 212 kit. It is the most detailed kit but the nose is a weird shape. Why can't Italeri get this stuff right? The Fujimi kit has a good nose shape but is less detailed overall. LD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RotorheadTX Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 The fix for the nose is actually quite simple Zac; cut the nose off on a vertical line at the forward edge of the down-view windows, flip it over 180degrees, and re-attach. Maarten Schönfeld's model and method: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 The fix for the nose is actually quite simple Zac; cut the nose off on a vertical line at the forward edge of the down-view windows, flip it over 180degrees, and re-attach.Maarten Schönfeld's model and method: Now there's a useful tip! Thanks! Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loach Driver Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Amazing. It takes a sharp eye to spot that fix. Maarten has just sorted out the biggest problem with that kit. Thanks. LD. Edited January 13, 2011 by Loach Driver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K5054NZ Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Wow, thanks for the comprehensive replies guys! I will indeed need the pop-out floats and the radar nose, so will keep an eagle eye out for the Revell boxing 212 and then start thinking about how to do the radar nose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Hey, thats a good tip, i will try it with my next 412..... btw, can we see that finished model?? Rod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loach Driver Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 The Bell 212 needs close study to make sure you get every detail correct. I was researching a Bell 212 flown by a commercial helicopter company here in Ireland back in the late 70's and I reckon I will have to use a mix of parts from the Revell Bell 212 kit, the Italeri UH-1N kit and the Italeri Bell 412 to get the machine I want! At least the nose shape will be a lot better now. LD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RotorheadTX Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Hey, thats a good tip, i will try it with my next 412..... btw, can we see that finished model??Rod. Sorry, that's all I have of it. Unless someone knows how to get hold of Maarten. I've looked on HKN, IMPS Sweden, and Modellversium without luck, and cannot remember where I got that image from originally. Maarten did some really good write-ups on how to improve the Italeri Hueys, both long- and short-bodies, but I do not recall the source. Cheers! Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCoulter52 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Sorry,that's all I have of it. Unless someone knows how to get hold of Maarten. I've looked on HKN, IMPS Sweden, and Modellversium without luck, and cannot remember where I got that image from originally. Maarten did some really good write-ups on how to improve the Italeri Hueys, both long- and short-bodies, but I do not recall the source. Cheers! Tony I couldn't find any pictures but, here is the write up from HKN..... Italeri nose correction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Good info on the UH-1N nose. The next question is does this correction also work on the 1/35 Panda/Dragon UH-1N? It is supposedly upscaled from the Italeri UH-1N. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Fleming Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Somewhere I have a set of drawings showing thendif erences between a 212 and a UH-1N - mainly in terms of intake grills and the passenger door. Can't promise anything, but I'll see what I can find. From memory, the bits are in the Italeri 212 kit, just not labelled as such!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K5054NZ Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 If you were able to find the info it would be much appreciated, I have both 212 AND 412 kits on their way courtesy of a very generous benefactor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew MacKay Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 If you were able to find the info it would be much appreciated, I have both 212 AND 412 kits on their way courtesy of a very generous benefactor. Most of the civil hueys in NZ are ex US Military so the UH-1 would be you best bet ... BTW get the CMK interior set the PE is fantastic, can't say the same for the resin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K5054NZ Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Most of the civil hueys in NZ are ex US Military so the UH-1 would be you best bet ... BTW get the CMK interior set the PE is fantastic, can't say the same for the resin. Thanks for that Andrew, I know the military sourcing would be true of the older machines floating around but the idea of the 212s being the same is new to me. I'd always thought Helicopters (NZ) machines were bought new, rather than civilianised exmil. I'll be doing some research to go along with the model anyway, so I'm thinking it shouldn't be too hard to piece the story together. For those of you keeping score at home, here's a machine that is one of the subjects for my future model: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Helicopters...e378dc9b87af4a2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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