PapaSmurf630 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Hey guys, Been progressing slowly on this bird. Haven't got much to show for the time spent on it so far but here goes anyway. Right Side of Nose. New mold so no rivets at all! Just noticed my spelling mistakes on 're-revitted' Oh and the red rectangle shows the previous position of the panel. Comparison. Another Comparison. A whole days work, and only 1/6th of the fuselage finished. The rivets on this thing are amazingly big. They had to go! Still though the final result even so far is worth the effort. Will still have the wings, vertical stab and tailplane to do, aswell as speed brakes etc...and then comes the cockpit and the rest of the detailing! <_< Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Looking good so far,are you using any Heritage Aviation stuff on your build? Stephen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 The FA2 Conversion Set, AMRAAM Set, Air Intakes Set, Under Carriage Set. I don't know whether to bother investing in the FRS.1 set. The site needs better pictures of the resin, and from the pics I can see, the tub looks exactly like the Airfix Tub. Anyway, it'll be a week or two before I finish the filling and sanding of the rivets Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RwKennard Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Hey Jake Looking good so far! How have you filled the rivets? I have a Gr3 in the to do pile and your techuique seems to have solved the problem! Keep us posted Richard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 Just normal cheapo putty from my local. I have to be careful handling it though. Bending the fuselage can pop out some of the rivets so be careful Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share Posted July 14, 2006 Update. Got the FA2 conversion set on Monday. Here it is: Lots of white metal parts for vents etc Big bits of resin aswell, might save putting weight in the front (if it even needs it which I doubt) Still not quite sure where to slice the rear fuselage to make room for the plug, but that stage is far away anyway. Finished filling and sanding one half of the fuselage. Takes a LONG time. Comparison: Lighting wasn't the best but thought I'd get an update on here. Currently working on detailing side wall of cockpit, can't wait to get some pics up on here of it, looks the business! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted August 10, 2006 Author Share Posted August 10, 2006 (edited) Small update. Overall Front Fuselage shot with new Heritage Resin Nose. Beginnings of the detailing. GR3 seat temporarily in place. Things have slowed down due to me finding this quite big fault (if you want to make this model as accurate as possible. Airfix have designed the seat to fix directly onto the rear bulkhead. In the real aircraft, this isn't the case. There is some sort of a frame behind the seat. You have to cut part of the rear cockpit off, tilt the rear bulkhead backwards. This means building a bulkhead from scratch (making it longer due to the shallower angle. It also means lengthening the side consoles and other bits. Sorry if this is to indepth. I figured this would help anyone building the FRS.1 aswell. All the pictures so far are the VERY beginnings, it will get a lot more visually interesting soon Cheers! Edited August 10, 2006 by PapaSmurf630 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Langton Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 wow looking forward to the progress John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 Hey guys, Back again after some more cutting work!! Weird, I've spent a couple of weeks on this model, and I haven't actually 'built' anything! Just when I think I can start making, I have to chop more bits off! I started by carefully cutting of some of the rear cockpit. This picture shows the orientation of the new bulkhead. Lastly, this picture shows the material that still needs to be removed (in pink) The pink at the top will be sanded off when the bulkhead is in place to get a perfect angle (and hopefully fit) The wheel bay plug is inplace in this picture, the front end will have a part sliced off aswell. Black part will need to be extended, along with tub and side consoles! Next update will hopefully have the new bulkhead in place! I've got to do this treatment to both sides Going to be a LOOONG project! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 Cheers Skii, Lots of research helps. Your comment is a BIG morale booster! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 Yet another small update. I know I should probably wait a little longer inbetween posting updates, so you guys can see a little bit more progress, but I figured I'd try to give as much of a indepth build thread as possible since there are so many changes and modifications that need to be executed in order to get a good model of this awesome aircraft. Anyway, the bulkhead! This may not be the fastest or easiest way of making a bulkhead but it's very cost effective. All you need is some scrap card, a sharp scalpel and 500g of patience. Using a peice of card roughly cut to form, I then dry-fitted and re-trimmed over and over again until I got as close to a fit as is possible. The best method I discovered was to do two seperate halves, this makes it easier to isolate what parts need trimming. Lovely! As close to perfect as I want to get (with eye sight and sanity intact) Wake up everyone!! :D Finally, it's just a case of transferring the shape to plasticard and cutting it out, sanding and dryfitting until you've got it snug as a bug! Sorted. Next step - lengthening cockpit tub and other parts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 Quick update. Cockpit tub corrected. I think that's the last major 'corrective surgery' I'm going to have to do in the cockpit. Now it's just a case of building up the sidewalls, IP, Bulkhead and of course adding all the switches and dials...sheesh... btw, all small gaps around the edges of the bulkhead will be hidden when I place foil over it (and wrapping slightly around onto the walls) to produce the raised rivets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Thank you for your pictures Papasmurf. I enjoy your build, looks like to be a BIIIIG project Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave T Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Airfix have designed the seat to fix directly onto the rear bulkhead. In the real aircraft, this isn't the case. There is some sort of a frame behind the seat. You have to cut part of the rear cockpit off, tilt the rear bulkhead backwards. This means building a bulkhead from scratch (making it longer due to the shallower angle. It also means lengthening the side consoles and other bits. Hi, sorry to barge in, newbie here and all, but i can say with some authority that the Harrier seat does in fact slide up & down a rail attached to the rear bulkhead. There is marginal clearance between it and the bulkhead, so in 1/24 this would be negligible. Cheers....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted August 16, 2006 Author Share Posted August 16, 2006 Yup, there is indeed a rail that the seat sits on. BUT, the bulkhead is still to far forward. This becomes undeniably evident when you mark out the postions for the ducts that sit on the sloped section, behind the rear cockpit bulkhead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted August 16, 2006 Author Share Posted August 16, 2006 Little update. Sorry for poor quality pictures. These were taken 2 days ago. Right side console lengthened. Left console shortened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 Hello, Another update. Last couple of days have been spent finishing of the framing around the left cockpit wall and also expirementing with new methods (most of these methods are new for me) Nearly completed framing. Still A LOT more detail to go on this thing, but atleast it's a good start. This is a control panel that is found on the left of the cockpit side wall. All scratched out of plastic, foil, wire and paper. Boy is it small. One more switch has to be put on this then it's complete. I've also realised I have a whole bunch of pictures with the ejection seat removed, thus showing the WHOLE bulkhead, boy do I have a job cut out for me. This is great for me and the project because I can remove all 'guess work' and get it as accurate as possible. Cheers guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 Small update. Been a day of small yet needed progress. Building in an area where the detail is very obscure in reference pics. Also, noticed a small recess in the side of the left side-console. This NEEDS to be replicated or it'll cause later fit issues when I install the ejection seat. Remove material. I did mine like this. Very quick, effecient way. Ended looking like this. This had to be done. I spent about an hour looking at it contemplating whether it was worth the effort or not. I think it'll save a few headaches later on. Next step, detailing the forward side wall, then painting, then installing the smaller components before starting on the rear bulkhead. I PROMISE I wont post another update until I have the side wall painted and near enough done :wacko: Any comments/criticisms welcomed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
viper494 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) Looking good so far,are you using the FA2 book done by Albert Osinski.Its a good reference for the FA2.Cheers for the offer of your help by the way and good luck with the FA2 project. Edited August 23, 2006 by viper494 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 I'm using Kagero Topshots book by Albert Osinski :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Looks very good, it will be a great build Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timmy! Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I'm glad to see the details coming! The scale is just right too! Watching with much interest. Timmy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 Cheers everyone. Your comments are hugely appreciated. I'm trying to prove to myself that the results you get Timmy in this scale are possible (to a lesser degree of course) to the mere mortal using only basic materials Quote Link to post Share on other sites
viper494 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Hi there what decals are you using for this project,are you using the Heritage decals? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaSmurf630 Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 Yeah I will be...801NAS That stage seems soooo far away Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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