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  1. 32 minutes ago, Mstor said:

    Do carriers carry nukes? I mean, I know they have in the past as the Navy had contingencies for using nukes including a bomber designed to carry them, but for the sake of the discussion, during whatever time frame we are discussing, either the 80s (when the movie was filmed) or the present. If so, well there's another option on the table. To save millions of lives do we nuke Tokyo and Berlin and call it a day?

    That's what I was thinking..tactical nukes.  I know the a4 could carry one center line, that's why it sits high in the front I believe.  There is/was always a Marine unit responsible for guarding nuke weapons on board...that's what I was told on the Midway tour...so I'm voting yes, they had nukes.  

  2. 7 minutes ago, Tank said:

    Why slug it, before IJN can figure out what to do next, sail to Tokyo and take out the Emperor.   

    Oooh,  now that's the philosophical issue that popped into my head while watching the movie.  If your in command of nimitz that day, what do you do?  Do you alter the course of 'history'?  Would you send the attack?  

  3. 2 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

    Jet fuel would be the easiest problem to handle.  JP-4 isn't all that different from automotive diesel.  The trick would be to convince the War Powers Board to approve designating a refinery to specialize in JP-4 for the small fleet of aircraft that would use it.  Weapons replenishment and replacement air crew, now there's the trick.

    You could set up  intruders n corsair to carry 250 or 500lb bombs of the day..or whatever they were , but maintaining engines n such would be a problem I guess

  4. So if the carriers were inoperable but the pilots and enough planes were serviceable,  that would have to have changed the strategy/impact of the island hopping campaign, yes?  I'm not a historian by any measure and not familiar enough with the geography...just spit balling

  5. 2 minutes ago, Spook498 said:

     

    That was what my thought was. 

     

    You could probably do a hail Mary and try and drop a few Mavericks down the smokestack and try to damage the ship that way.

    They used to kill swamp rats like that back on tattoine...i think that was the line in Star Wars.  I was just thinking, I wonder what the attack plan would have been...what would the tactics for that strike look like?  Blow the hell out of em would have been somwhere on the list I suppose

  6. 4 hours ago, Mstor said:

     

    The torpedo belt is separate and different from the armor belt, which extends a number of feet above the water line. A Harpoon striking just above the waterline of an Iowa class BB would first have to pass through the outer hull and then would strike the armor belt at its thickest point (about 12" of hardened armor steel). It wouldn't even make a dent. A missile striking from above, i.e. vertically, would first pass through the bomb deck, an inch or two in thickness, but then impact on the armor deck of four or more inches of armor.  The only effective strikes would be against the superstructure which is only lightly armored. Such attacks would reek havoc but would leave the more vital parts of the ship untouched. Think of the Bismarck which was still afloat, though admittedly out of action, after repeated pounding from Rodney's 16" and King George V's 14" guns, was still afloat. They had closed distance so much that their firing trajectory was essentially flat and they were hitting the main armor belt which withstood most of the hits.

    So your saying this thing could go a few rounds?  I guess three wouldn't be much of a chance for the Japanese fleet to counter punch..still interesting

  7. 11 minutes ago, GW8345 said:

    From my experience, all Naval Aviators back then (1980 time frame) could fly anything from the 40's. They didn't have all that fancy tech back then like they do know so back then, there were stick n rudder aviators, hell, to my knowledge they never even used the ACLS when they were coming back onboard.

    That's true...dam I forgot how old that film was and was thinking about today's tech.  Stuck in my own time warp😳

  8. 2 hours ago, rightwinger26 said:

    Sorry, didn’t mean to sound condescending.  When I think what if, I think like historically plausible, like could Bomber Command have flown B-29’s if the war drug on (hmmmmmm).   Just a misunderstanding in definitions I guess, no malice intended buddy! I can’t help but think of totally obscure things on this, like what would 1941 bluejackets have thought when they first walked into a berthing and saw a coffin rack.....mind.....blown.  How would modern aircrew do learning how to do learning how to land using real paddles.

    I appreciate that.  Communicating over the internet mixed with my tendency to get defensive.  All good👍  Hmmm..could all modern pilots fly back then?  Take away the tech and it's a different game right?  

  9. 3 minutes ago, DrGlueblob said:

    In this and other modeling sites with a forum, starting a topic about Squadron is guaranteed to hit the same issues every single time.

    I don't think any of these responses are mean-spirited. Squadron should read these and address the business mechanic to win back our trust.. So many customers with the same problem? -And for years now.. No change.

    This much ire has to have hit their bottom line to get someone to notice by now?

    Interesting.  I honestly had no idea about the reputation they'd established.  I've never ordered from them, I was just flipping through the hundred emails I had one morning and thought I'd share.  Your right...seems like getting on the good side of the masses here would be a positive business move.  

  10. 32 minutes ago, rightwinger26 said:

    Lol, I don’t think it’s really a ‘what if’, this is a world where the USS Nimitz went through a big wiggly worm hole in a thunder storm. Sky’s the limit, lol.

    Isn't that the point of this discussion?  It's fantasy..,it stimulates the imagination and gives opportunity to explore other possibilities and ask questions like "what if"...anyway, my point was throughout history there are tons of examples where things like weather patterns, car accidents or family illnesses have influenced a chain of events that could have gone completely differently.  I saw it on the streets as a firefighter.  No way some of what I saw should have happened the way it did.  But things line up and they do happen that way.  What if I didn't start this topic...

  11. 6 minutes ago, rightwinger26 said:

    They touched on it in the movie in a way, would they have renamed the ship? And if so, what to?  Think about the effect of the Manhattan Project, it probably would have been nothing more than a reverse engineering program.  I wonder if Pearl had the depth at the time for a ship with that draft, I haven’t bothered to to look yet, (and its too nice of a day to sit inside and do it now).  Could North American have retro fitted B-25s with tail hooks, thus allowing Doolittle to not need to make a one way trip, but could the landing gear have survived the landings. If so, think of the number of Chinese that wouldn’t have suffered retribution for helping downed airmen. My brain is on overdrive, this is fascinating. 

    It's that whole "what if" idea that brings infinite possibilities.  What if they took the senator back to Pearl on that helo?  I've read that the d day invasion was almost stopped after the first couple hours because of the massive losses...then what would have happened.  What if one of those Tomcats flew to Pearl or the f8 recon plane landed instead of flying a pass?  Whenever my brain gets on that path I have the same thought tho...as jacked up or backwards as things might seem to me, I feel like there is a plan.  Like things went exactly the way they were supposed to.  Interesting stuff for sure but that's what makes us human..we can imagine n have convos like this.  

  12. 3 minutes ago, GW8345 said:

    That first strike would have wiped out the entire Japanese fleet. A couple of Mk 82's into each carrier, a Harpoon into the battleships, 2 or 3

    Mk 82's into the cruisers and some 20mm into the destroyers. Those ships were not designed to withstand modern weapons and the AA gunners were not trained to shot at something moving faster than 250 knots, it would have been like shooting fish in a barrel.

    That's kinda what I was thinking.  Thanks for the info on the seats👍

  13. 1 minute ago, rightwinger26 said:

    So I was pondering, let’s say for some reason the Nimitz didn’t return to the future, but it didn’t bring a speedy end to the war, let’s say, the attack on the Japanese Fleet was recalled, they raced for the time warp, and it snapped shut heartbreakingly close.  Sooner or later, probably sooner, our aircraft take a pounding, the ships supply system would runout, so the modern air wing would quickly turn into static displays (I get it, they could engineer more, but this more fun).  Think about the Nimitz with an uber WWII air wing on board, maybe an up/back dated AA armament, maybe painted in measure 32. It could have been its own TF.  That could be a cool what if build.

    It would have been a kind of Mad Max scenario.  Technology broken down by being trapped in time without the tech support.  Trippy.  My question was how much would it take to sink or make that Japanese fleet inoperable.  Would that first strike have been enough to do it?  

  14. 55 minutes ago, crackerjazz said:

     

     

    Final Countdown is one of my favorites and had to get a Bluray copy  --  you can actually see the weathering on the Tomcats which look really clean on DVD.    When five years later Top Gun came out there was a world of difference on the fight sequences.  The Final Countdown fight scenes looked so tame : )   but I still love the movie.  The pilots in this video say it was more realistic than Top Gun's nuclear explosions in the air : )      I do love good movie magic, though -- especially creative practical effects.  In the Top Gun bluray extras they tell about how they used models extensively in the film and how they filmed the actors in a cockpit with a lamp on a gimbal to provide "sunlight" and throw moving shadows about -  I find that really interesting because the sunlight  looked so real : )   And the way they used two projection screens, one for the background and one in front to provide reflections on the F-14 canopy -- that was amazing.

    That stuff fascinates me.  I'm a retired firefighter and honestly there aren't many other  careers I can see myself getting into but making models in a special effects studio would be one.  I grew up near Disney land n La La land.  Spent a lot of time at universal as a pup...maybe it's in my blood.  Moved away a long time ago but lived in San Diego and still visit LA a bit..something about those movie studios gets the juices flowing for me.  Thanks for that👍

  15. 12 minutes ago, Curt B said:

     

    Seriously?  Agreed that 'wtf' applies here!

     

    The English language is rapidly devolving into shorthand, ridiculous phraseology that may make some sense to the kids, but certainly not to anyone with an ounce of genuine communication skills.  Just my opinion, of course.

    I agree 100%.  According to Dictionary.com:  ' 'Noun.  The quality of seeming to be true according to ones opinion or perception without logic or factual evidence.  The growing trend of truthiness as opposed to truth'.  😳  Well, there sure is a metric ton of that floating around these days...wow.  

  16. 4 minutes ago, Bounce said:

    thanks for the clarification!  just read about the barrier landing last night and posted it here.  (squints eyes at Reddit)

    Not your fault...there is so much info out there, that's why information doesn't equal knowledge.  who knows what's accurate anymore.  I heard someone say "Truthy" is an acceptable word now..wtf?  

  17. 3 minutes ago, ESzczesniak said:

    They lost it for me when they went to their new inventory system with little "physical" inventory.  It seems like nearly everything is "available to order", but little is in stock except for the new hot kit, etc.  And I still can't prove it, but I swear during their "big sales" more stuff magically becomes "available to order" rather than "instock".

     

    We modelers are often looking for esoteric stuff.  Having the 4 most popular kits in stock isn't going to last very long.  Half of us probably own all 4 already!  I much prefer Spruebrothers approach of, if it's listed, its ready to ship. 

     

    And their "available to order" is a joke.  I was looking for a kit of the Dragon Zumwalt Destroyer (the name has some meaning in our family), and it's listed as "available to order" on their site.  To heck it is!  It's barely available on Ebay, is out of production, and no way of getting through Dragon. 

    Words mean something don't they...it seems obvious but the way people act today it's like they simply accept the manipulation of word play

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