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Was curious if that is the case? Going through a lot of my model kits and have the Academy SU-30MK. Looks like a J-11. The Chinese decals in kit say it is a SU-30MKK. Not sure what the difference is. Any aftermarket decals for this kit any where?

Jeff

 

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Well ... both are totally different Flanker-family members. The Su-30MKK (lower image) is a twin-seater striker/multirole fighter with - just in short - several changes on the landing gears, rear section and especially its tails, whereas the original J-11 and J-11A (top image) is a single-seater fighter based on the Su-27SK.

 

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On 10/31/2023 at 8:20 PM, Raptor.777 said:

Was curious if that is the case? Going through a lot of my model kits and have the Academy SU-30MK. Looks like a J-11. The Chinese decals in kit say it is a SU-30MKK. Not sure what the difference is. Any aftermarket decals for this kit any where?

Jeff

 

 

Do you mean J-16?

 

That is more similar to Su-30. 

 

It will not be very difficult to build a J-16 out of a Su-30 kit. 

 

j-16-vs-su-30.jpg

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18 hours ago, foxmulder_ms said:

 

Do you mean J-16?

 

That is more similar to Su-30. 

 

It will not be very difficult to build a J-16 out of a Su-30 kit. 

 

j-16-vs-su-30.jpg

 

 

Well ... depending the own modelling skills! In fact it would be beyond mine ... but why converting a Su-30MKK with a lot of work, when there is a J-16 already available.
At least for my taste the modifications would be too many - and my skills too limited - so I would rather go directly to the J-16 kit or maybe do a kit-bash.

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So this whole topic started as I was going through my models stash. I have an Academy SU-30MK. The instructions have an option for a Chines version. I thought the chinese version was called something else but pretty much the same thing as the russian version. That's where all this was going

Jeff

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On 11/5/2023 at 1:47 PM, Raptor.777 said:

So this whole topic started as I was going through my models stash. I have an Academy SU-30MK. The instructions have an option for a Chines version. I thought the chinese version was called something else but pretty much the same thing as the russian version. That's where all this was going

Jeff

 

 

oh.. in that case it is just Su-30 as well. PLAAF has Su-30 which was ordered two decades ago 🙂  Su-30MKK to be precise. And yeah, you don't need to do anything special. 

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On 11/5/2023 at 7:47 PM, Raptor.777 said:

So this whole topic started as I was going through my models stash. I have an Academy SU-30MK. The instructions have an option for a Chines version. I thought the chinese version was called something else but pretty much the same thing as the russian version. That's where all this was going

Jeff

 

 

Sorry in case I misunderstood your question and focused too much on the Su-30MKK and J-11 issue, since they are indeed different.

However - like @foxmulder_ms noted - the PLAAF operates indeed a few original Su-30MKK, which were updated a bit in recent years and not to forget the PLAN NA operated also a few Su-30MK2 dedicated to maritime attack but they have been handed over to the PLAAF just recently.

 

Here a typical MKK
36408449_Su-30MKKnewIFF-@-1-2.thumb.jpg.0f7b056da9fa47dee0827941779e0d00.jpg


... briefly a few were even painted in green/tan or sand/tan 

 

832162384_p93XL-Su-30MKK20696green-pink20694sand-pink-18.Div-2.thumb.jpg.153b0bb96b38ef0dac1007d453127ddb.jpg

 

... and here the naval variant MK2

1224793231_Su-30MK2PL-12-20190107-1.thumb.jpg.e79926493374a2b8986d56bde7e71f53.jpg

 

... just briefly before handover to the PLAAF they received low-viz markings and an eagle tail art 

247968698_Su-30MK2no.13lowvisibility-@eagle.thumb.jpg.682904cca12e71d631bf18d6c0f87e51.jpg

940616724_Su-30MK2Eagle.jpg.4acc0b9deb922151710b85219f02057a.jpg

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11 hours ago, Deino said:

 

 

Sorry in case I misunderstood your question and focused too much on the Su-30MKK and J-11 issue, since they are indeed different.

However - like @foxmulder_ms noted - the PLAAF operates indeed a few original Su-30MKK, which were updated a bit in recent years and not to forget the PLAN NA operated also a few Su-30MK2 dedicated to maritime attack but they have been handed over to the PLAAF just recently.

 

Here a typical MKK
36408449_Su-30MKKnewIFF-@-1-2.thumb.jpg.0f7b056da9fa47dee0827941779e0d00.jpg


... briefly a few were even painted in green/tan or sand/tan 

 

832162384_p93XL-Su-30MKK20696green-pink20694sand-pink-18.Div-2.thumb.jpg.153b0bb96b38ef0dac1007d453127ddb.jpg

 

... and here the naval variant MK2

1224793231_Su-30MK2PL-12-20190107-1.thumb.jpg.e79926493374a2b8986d56bde7e71f53.jpg

 

... just briefly before handover to the PLAAF they received low-viz markings and an eagle tail art 

247968698_Su-30MK2no.13lowvisibility-@eagle.thumb.jpg.682904cca12e71d631bf18d6c0f87e51.jpg

940616724_Su-30MK2Eagle.jpg.4acc0b9deb922151710b85219f02057a.jpg

The pic that looks like it is in the desert, the camo paint looks like one of the colors is pink. Where could one get low vis decals for that aircraft in 1/48? Awesome pics

Jeff

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