Guest LITTLE BIRD 117 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I need help making ch-47d seats, any ideas are welcome.Please help ,Here are some pics! http://www.pbase.com/aztomas/image/8651455 http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/sys...47d-image85.gif Thanks for all the help. LB 117 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Hello LB117 Maybe you need 3 rods, one on the top, on on the front, one on the aft of each seat Cut them to dimension take light red paper, cut them in the shape : 2 pieces, one for the seat, one for behind or better print them on paper : one face printed in full red the other face just the seat shape printed red, so you can cut it very easily and reproduce the shape X time. when you draw the shape, for the back, take it a litle longer, as you will bent the bottom and glue it on the seat piece, back, like on the picture (you see, the bottom of the L doesn't go to the back of the seat but a little forward. When you draw the seat itself, draw the front and the back longer. what is too long should ga around the rods and be glued just around the rod. After that, you have to make these bended rods you see on the sides. glue them between the front and back rod when you are at it, take the same technic for the seat belts : oen side in belt colour, the details on the other side X time, and cut them for the seat fabric fixing on the top rod, draw to the same time the metal part you see on the top, but not at the end of the belt, but something like 1/3, so you will band the belt just over this place, glue it together and let a part of the belt lose. The other belt side will be glued to the back of theseat seat on the seat belts, you can also draw the buckles on one side Then make the legs well, thats what I done with my Super-frelon, only I had not to build the frame Hope you understand it, I can send some pics if you need Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LITTLE BIRD 117 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Ya pics will work. i understand what you had tiped,but with me it always helps to have pics.Thanx alot man. LB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LITTLE BIRD 117 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I dont know if there are at the moment, but do you guys know if there is mh-47 conversion for the 1/35 47d?thanx again. LB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) If anyone will make a MH conversion it would be Cobra Co. They just released the A model detail set, I would guess the D model update would be next then maybe the MH conversion, but no official word yet. Just for giggles, did anyone notice the "p*ss tube" in the lower R/H corner of the the first pic? http://www.pbase.com/aztomas/image/8651455 Its the black funnel with surgical tubing snaked down through the ramp actuator hole. Havent seen that in a while. You could put that in after you do the seats :D Edited August 23, 2006 by Hooker169 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Hello LB here some pics for an idea how to made this kind of seats : seatback are printed : one side with shape one side with plain colour here the seat itself is cut to dimension here the printed belt who holds the seatback here the seat belts, oposite side is plain blue with black strips at the right place so to beginn with something, cut the backseats and I decided not to use the belts at the top, so I cut them out then I cut the new belts and bent them just over the holding piece which is printed at about 1/3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Belts are glued on the back of the backseat then I glued tpgether the place where the holding pieces are printed then I bend the holding pieces so that they match with the holding rod and at the end, the seatback is bent in L glue one rod to the seat part check you still see the rod from the top Cut excess part so you just turn around the rod (and do not cut to much as I do here) glue the paper around the rod try not to put too much glue make the same with an other rod at the oposite side then glue the backseat on it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 at the end, you can get this with seatbelts added Thats it but Eduard will certainly make a fotoetched set Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LITTLE BIRD 117 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Those seats are amazing thankyou for the help.ya i noticed the tube.They seem hard to make,esspecialy for a beginner modeler.I will try it out. LB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LITTLE BIRD 117 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Norbert how did you print the material for the seats?thanx. LB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richuk Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 First off, that's an excellent piece of scratch building. Thanks for sharing that. Secondly, how did you make all those buckles, are they PE. Thirdly, please tell me they aren't 1/72 scale.(they look 1/48, but just to confirm). thanks, Rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Norbert how did you print the material for the seats?thanx. LB Hello LB Its printed here with an old HP deskjet in photoquality on normal paper Its a little work before to make the image, you have to use a software like photoshop, micrographX, corel draw or others. they are sometime given with printers or digital cameras. Then you need a minimum of references. for this you can make special google serch like "seat chinook" and "seat CH-47" and all you can imagine, and search also after all kind of walkaround from the pictures, you will take the details like here seatbelt buckle copy ans paste and work out all these pics so they look like if you were realy just in fron of them never forget you must have the same colour in the back of the paper Then you must scale the picture to the correct size according to what you want to build I usualy do this with MS Word Happy crazy modeling Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 First off, that's an excellent piece of scratch building. Thanks for sharing that.Secondly, how did you make all those buckles, are they PE. Thirdly, please tell me they aren't 1/72 scale.(they look 1/48, but just to confirm). thanks, Rich It's 1/144 ! No I'm kidding, it's my current build here, 1/35 In progress pics in 1/35 it's realy OK in 1/48, its small but it work (simplify with the scale, stop cafe and beer) in 1/72 I never try. I thing the thinest printpaper will be too thick, use some very thin paper you can find in graphic art shops + fixe it on normal paper. well crazy, take a rectangular piece of paper in the right colour, bend the two sides to give the illusion of the seat bars...of buy a set of photoetched seatbelts Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richuk Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Hi Norbert, For a second, you had me there. 1/144!!! I followed your link. Wow. That thing could take off and fly. Amazing and inspirational. I've got a few 1/35 hueys I'll try and have a go using your techniques. Many thanks. Merci beaucoup. PS How long and how many marriages did this thing take to finish? Rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Hi Norbert,For a second, you had me there. 1/144!!! I followed your link. Wow. That thing could take off and fly. Amazing and inspirational. I've got a few 1/35 hueys I'll try and have a go using your techniques. Many thanks. Merci beaucoup. PS How long and how many marriages did this thing take to finish? Rich I hope to have finnished in october and I have the same wife since 22 years, I would'nt risk to lost her, so it could take longer. thanksfully, she works very often in the evening and I really do not enjoy TV. Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liberator24 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 So, Norbert can you help me with my -46 belts??? Cockpit and back yard?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 So, Norbert can you help me with my -46 belts??? Cockpit and back yard?? Hello Liberator will be great you show us what you try, and I help you. What scale, what model, what time ? Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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