11bee Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 I'm starting a late vietnam era UH-1H and need to make sure I have the best match for the paint. Model Master OD (FS34087) looks a bit to greenish. All the pix seem to show the paint on these helos to be distinctly on the brown side. Field Drab (FS30118) almost seems like a better match. What say you experts? John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Moore Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Floyd Werner, Jr suggested Tamiya Olive Drab (which is a lot darker than Model Master's OD 34087) for a later war OD, which is what I used on this OH-58A Kiowa; On a side note, I mixed a little Future in to give the paint a slightly glossy sheen. HTH, Alby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tblood988 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 MM has a specific Army Helo Green color. I can't remember the number right off, but I believe I still have a bottle at home. I'll check it out after work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Intruder_bass Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 MM has a specific Army Helo Green color. I can't remember the number right off, but I believe I still have a bottle at home. I'll check it out after work. Thats for modern Helo Drab For Vietnam Olive Drab I am also leaning towards Tamiya or even Gunze (they have like 3 different shades of OD) Also Revell and Humbroll have nice OD colors. All together I have about 10 shades of OD from various manufacturers which I use all the time to breake down the color for scale effect... Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EDWMatt Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Here's a link to a pic that pretty well illustrates late 'Nam era OD http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Army/...uois/0818016/L/ This Huey is 70-16296, and to the best of my knowledge, never went through depot at Corpus, so the paint is the original that Bell applied in 1971. To my mind, Tamiya OD looks like a pretty good match. There was also an older, lighter, browner OD (more like field drab) used previously. We had another Huey, 67-17145 that also had never been overhauled, that was this lighter color Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 Here's a link to a pic that pretty well illustrates late 'Nam era OD http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Army/...uois/0818016/L/ This Huey is 70-16296, and to the best of my knowledge, never went through depot at Corpus, so the paint is the original that Bell applied in 1971. To my mind, Tamiya OD looks like a pretty good match. There was also an older, lighter, browner OD (more like field drab) used previously. We had another Huey, 67-17145 that also had never been overhauled, that was this lighter color Thanks very much for that picture, that is a big help. Definately a much different shade than what was used in the 60's. Still seems to have a little gloss to it as well. Regards, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charles Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 what i do is i add a bit of flat black to the FS34087 and its come out nice like the picture EDWMATT shows but just a bit bit bit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aerodata.it Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 What about FS34079 for OH-6? Too light? Cheers, Alex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FM-Whip Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Here's a link to a pic that pretty well illustrates late 'Nam era OD http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Army/...uois/0818016/L/ This Huey is 70-16296, and to the best of my knowledge, never went through depot at Corpus, so the paint is the original that Bell applied in 1971. To my mind, Tamiya OD looks like a pretty good match. There was also an older, lighter, browner OD (more like field drab) used previously. We had another Huey, 67-17145 that also had never been overhauled, that was this lighter color The pic in your link was taken in 1993 for a FY70 airframe. The finish in that photo is glossy or semi-glossy. If that's the original late-Vietnam era paint (you are assuming the airframe was never repainted in 20+ years) then I'm pretty sure it's been waxed or has some other overcoat of some kind. The late Vietnam-era low-reflectance Aircraft Green was as flat as Paris Hilton. The paint shown in the photo appears more green than standard late-war low-reflectance OD but that may just be a photographic artifact. John Hairell (tpn18@yahoo.com) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 The pic in your link was taken in 1993 for a FY70 airframe. The finish in that photo is glossy or semi-glossy. If that's the original late-Vietnam era paint (you are assuming the airframe was never repainted in 20+ years) then I'm pretty sure it's been waxed or has some other overcoat of some kind. The late Vietnam-era low-reflectance Aircraft Green was as flat as Paris Hilton. The paint shown in the photo appears more green than standard late-war low-reflectance OD but that may just be a photographic artifact. John Hairell (tpn18@yahoo.com) Is there an official FS # for that late war "Aircraft Green" color? Definitely is different than the brown OD that was used on earlier helos. I've seen Hueys and OH-58's in this color, haven't seen any Loaches or Cobras painted in this shade though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FM-Whip Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Is there an official FS # for that late war "Aircraft Green" color? Definitely is different than the brown OD that was used on earlier helos. I've seen Hueys and OH-58's in this color, haven't seen any Loaches or Cobras painted in this shade though. The low-reflectance OD paint spec was MIL-L-46159 and was called "lacquer, acrylic, low reflective, color aircraft green". There was no specific FS number color match. The MIL standard called for the paint color to match samples provided by the Army to the manufacturer. Nowhere in the MIL standard does it reference FS-595 colors. The color component of the OD mix was (based on weight): 14.9% yellow iron oxide 2.0% red iron oxide 7.8% black iron oxide 5.1% carbon black 48.2% crystalline silica 20.5% diatomaceous silica 1.4% organo montmorillonite The paint was specifically formulated to have a low-IR reflectance and the smoothness approximated 600-grit sandpaper. It was dark, and it was flat. I believe this paint coupled with the use of various types of exhaust-suppression kits, was a response to the emerging threat of man-portable surface-to-air missiles in SEA. John Hairell (tpn18@yahoo.com) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loach Driver Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Humbrol No.155 is a good match for the brownish Olive Drab that was applied to US Army helicopters during the Viet Nam War. LD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aerodata.it Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Thank you Loach Driver, old Model Master enamels are my favorite but now hard to find in EU. My Loach needs of OD #1711 and International Orange #2022, I'll try with Humbrol 155 for olive drab and searching for Orange. Alex Rome (It) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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