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Great photos...

Btw, about the english stencils on the MiG-23, maybe the plane comes from another exhibit and the stencils were meant for the visitors. Otherwise, why would you have to tell a crewmember that he doesn't have to stay under the ordnance?

My best guess (with Raymond's help) - its an export bird that didnt make it to the intended addressee and ended up in the museum.

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some kind of telescopic covering over the hatch to the cockpit. guess it enables access to the cargo carried in flight or something.

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It's an escape chute........

"To ensure emergency escape from the helicopter during a flight with the platform attached, a telescopic chute was installed under the flight deck; this chute would drop, extending to full length ahead of the cargo platform and permit the crew to bail out safely without striking the slung load"

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thanx, flankerman. who else would have the right answer? :woot.gif:

jumping out of the chopper through a tube, trying not to wind up a splattered bug on the windshield of the bus you're carrying... uh, not the thing I would like to do. ever.

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Does someone know what verson of the mig-25 that was on scrapyard?

About the "blue 02" MiG-25, I'm pretty sure it's a MiG-25R from early (1st ?) production batch : it has a "R" nose and a short tail cone.

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About the "blue 02" MiG-25, I'm pretty sure it's a MiG-25R from early (1st ?) production batch : it has a "R" nose and a short tail cone.

okei, thanks. What is differenses between P and R?

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Yeah, but what is differences between them? Model wise.

“R†Stands for Reconnaissance (Razvedka)

The differences between the P (Perehvatchik) and R (Razvedchik) are quite significant. The main difference is the nose. 25R has completely new nose the houses photo/radar and other recce equipment. But it lacks the large interception radar of 25P

Observe the 25R nose

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25PD has completely different nose

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HTH

Z.

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Alright, decided not to start another thread and post these photos here.

When I was at Monino museum there was construction underway for some sort of event. All the evil museum ladies were distracted, so myself, Shark and Sebastijan sneaked to the graveyard in the back of the museum for a closer look.

Enjoy.

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One question,.............What in Hades is this ?, a boat or a plane, it has pontoons for water, but yet it has landing gear in the undercarriage. It looks like wings were removed at mid fuselage.

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One question,.............What in Hades is this ?, a boat or a plane, it has pontoons for water, but yet it hss landing gear in the undercarriage. It looks like wings were removed at mid fuselage.

It's a Bartini VVA-14, or, to be more strictly correct, it is a Bartini 14M1P Ekranoplan.

Roberto Bartini was an Italian emigre to the Soviet Union - he ended up designing various aircraft - the most famous of which was the Er-2 WWII bomber.

He was given his own design bureau - where he was responsible for many ground-breaking designs - think if him as a Soviet Burt Rutan.

The VVA-14 was one of his designs for a VTOL Anti-Submarine aircraft able to take off and land from any surface - water, snow, ice, concrete.

It was to have had a bank of twelve lift engines plus two cruise engines on top.

It had a wheeled undercarriage - plus inflatable floats for water landing.

It made quite a few successful flights in conventional mode - the lift engines were never fitted.

Because of the flexible rubber floats, it could never take off from water as a seaplane - only from land. It was supposed to take off from water vertically.

Because if the non-appearance of the lift engines, just before his death, he suggested lengthening the forward fuselage and adding two more engines to create a cushion under the wings - and turn it into an ekranoplan (wing in ground effect machine).

This was done - and the flexible, inflatable, floats were replaced with rigid floats - creating a 'tunnel' under the inner wings between the fuselage and floats - where the front engines would be used to create the cushion.

It thus became the 14M1P - but after Bartini's death, and resultant lack of drive in the project, it was eventually cancelled.

The airframe at Monino is the second prototype 14M1P ekranoplan - note the lengthened front fuselage and mounting for the front jets just behind the front access hatch.

The first prototype is another wreck at Taganrog.

It was an interesting, ground-breaking design, but was destined never to achieve success in either role - VTOL ASW nor Ekranoplan.

For more info, check out 'Russia's Ekranoplans' - Vol 8 in the Red Star series.

Ken

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