a question to P.Doll´s F-100

[wolfik]

hi all

knows someone more about the method of gluing the alluminum kitchen foil on the surface?

best regards

Peter

[Ghostbase]

Well, in the bad old days before specialised modelling products I used to use straight forward gloss varnish (made by Humbrol here in the UK) and have to say it worked well. The trick was to brush it onto the back of the foil to be applied to the model and place it in the correct place when it was 'sticky' ie not wet but not yet dry. It was a tricky technique but very successful when you got it right.

Nowadays I use Microscale Metal Foil Adhesive which is a bit more flexible and forgiving. I have one bottle which I purchased a couple of years ago from a model shop located just outside the main gate of Little Rock AFB in Arkansas and I definitely need to buy more on my next USA visit to Boston. It gives a lot more flexibility with drying time and when the foil is applied does not leave brush marks under the foil which varnish can do if you don't get the application exactly right.

Hope that helps...

Michael aka 'Ghostbase'

[Jennings]

You can also use Bare Metal Foil, which is made specifically for that purpose, and comes with adhesive already on it. It's been around for over 30 years.

J

[Flightliner]

Well, in the bad old days before specialised modelling products I used to use straight forward gloss varnish (made by Humbrol here in the UK) and have to say it worked well. The trick was to brush it onto the back of the foil to be applied to the model and place it in the correct place when it was 'sticky' ie not wet but not yet dry. It was a tricky technique but very successful when you got it right.

Nowadays I use Microscale Metal Foil Adhesive which is a bit more flexible and forgiving. I have one bottle which I purchased a couple of years ago from a model shop located just outside the main gate of Little Rock AFB in Arkansas and I definitely need to buy more on my next USA visit to Boston. It gives a lot more flexibility with drying time and when the foil is applied does not leave brush marks under the foil which varnish can do if you don't get the application exactly right.

Hope that helps...

Michael aka 'Ghostbase'

I can recommend these 2 ways too, but I would never use Bare Metal Foil, because you can never get a smooth surface. The adhesive material creates very slight marks. The way of using gloss varnish is in my opinion the best way to glue aluminium foil to a model after the model surface has been brushed with Mr. Surfacer 1000. That's the way I've treated my "C-Hun" shown on ARC.

Peter Doll aka Flightliner

Germany

Edited August 7, 2010 by Flightliner

[madmanrick]

Peter,

Wonderful job on the Hun, one of the best I've yet seen! A couple of questions are in order though;

1. You stated in the article that you used ordinary kitchen foil, but what did you use for adhesive? EDIT- answered!

2. Is the section around the afterburner painted or is it also foil? If foil, how did you obtain the "hot metal" look (very convincing btw)on it?

3. Lastly, is the HAS in the background of your photos a model or is it a forced perspective shot in front of the real thing?

TIA,

Rick

P.S. I had posted this question in the general comments section, but you probably missed it.

Edited August 7, 2010 by madmanrick

[Flightliner]

Peter,

Wonderful job on the Hun, one of the best I've yet seen! A couple of questions are in order though;

1. You stated in the article that you used ordinary kitchen foil, but what did you use for adhesive? EDIT- answered!

2. Is the section around the afterburner painted or is it also foil? If foil, how did you obtain the "hot metal" look (very convincing btw)on it?

3. Lastly, is the HAS in the background of your photos a model or is it a forced perspective shot in front of the real thing?

TIA,

Rick

P.S. I had posted this question in the general comments section, but you probably missed it.

Hi Rick,

good questions !!!

Concerning the burned metal on the rear fuselage of my "C", I've cooked pieces of foil in hot water with egg shells and the foil shows a certain

corrosion after a while. I did a futher thing by spraying than Alclad Hotmetal Blue plus Hotmetal Violet over the foil and that gave the metal the final touch I was looking for.

The other cold war jets you see in the background of some of my fotos are further Hun models in quarter inch scale, most of them F-models (converted Monogram "D"s) and a Sabre Dog (Revell F-86 D).

Sorry for missing your question in the general comments section and thanks for your kind words you've found on my model-

Happy modeling

Peter