hawkwrench Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 (edited) Here is a pic of the back of the co-pilots seat with the crew ICS (audio) box. It's the box underneath and to the left of the fire extinguisher. This is the left side which is where the gunner or flight medic sits. The ICS and stowage compartments are also behind the right pilot's seat. Just reverse the picture for this crew chief's side as you can see in the background of the posted picture. Edited May 2, 2013 by hawkwrench Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) So Eduard was correct on this one. However, the seat rail is different to that on the S-70. Scratching it is... just when I thought I'm nearing the end with cables, here is a new bunch. Where do the cabin passengers connect to, or am I a bit too civil on that one? Do they wear headsets at all? Edited May 3, 2013 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 On standard US Army UH-60s, there is usually only one intercom (IC) cord in the back for the team/squad leader. It usually comes out of the ceiling above the middle front facing seat behind the gunner's seats. On VIP birds, there can be a few IC cords at various positions. Most of the time, the GIBs (guys in back) just wear their helmets and earplugs. They are just along for the ride and don't need to talk to the crew. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Gino's right, thei ICS box in the middle is where the squad leader for the grunts usually connected into so he could relay messages to his guys about times and locations. The commo box is the same style as the 2 crew ICS boxes, but its inset flush with the cabin ceiling Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 Thanks guys. Is that ICS on the top photo, ceiling above the seat? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 No, that's an access hole in the ceiling for an electronic box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) Right... thanks. Looks like a selector panel or sth? I need to have enough imagination to get it together :D Edited May 3, 2013 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 That access hole is actually covered by a plexiglass door. So you can make that with a .10 strip of clear styrene and paint one end gray for the hinge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 I didn't see that one... plexiglass cover :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 It's clear so it's hard to see, but you can see the gray hinge on the left side and see the 2 knobs for opening the door on the right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) Looking ahead in my build, what are thease? Laser detector? One is radar detector... But which one and what's the other? Any sets out there for Black Hawk? Edited May 4, 2013 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I don't know about the forward box one. I'm guessing the gold circles are the laser detectors and the black dot is the radar detector. On the tail, the gold ones are the laser detectors. The black disks are APR-139 radar detectors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) Thank you. You really know your way around the Black Hawk :) Edited May 4, 2013 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 The devices on the forward mount are AN/AVR-2 Laser Warning heads. The system detects laser range finding and laser guidance signals being directed at it. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Gino is half right with the devices on the tail. The two lower black buds are APR/39 radar warning detectors. The two upper lenses are what we call "plume detectors", the nomenclature escapes me at the moment but they detect a heat blossom from any rocket propelled arms that have been fired at the receiver. For instance, a shoulder fired heat seeking missile leaves a heat blossom as it leaves it's launcher. The plume detectors see this and alert the crew. Typically there are also two of these on the nose of some UH-60's. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 So in a way its a IR signature detector? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 So in a way its a IR signature detector? In a sense, yes. It's primary intent is to detect the heat and visible light of a missile launch. Heat can be detected with an infra red sensor so the actual sensor elements may be of I/R detection type. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) Thank you for the information. I guess I'll just make provisions for these sensors, or should I go for it? Those shiny "eye balls" would make a nice detailed feature, surely it would stand out, provided I can make them in the first place. Anyway, Eduard had one job... scratching it is, again. Edited May 4, 2013 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I have both of the tail fin fairings already made and cast in resin. I also have the typical and newest nose sensors. They are available through Cobra Company. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 I noticed that, going through some other forums however I'm not that good at painting and I don't belive i can make them come to life. If I can find some small ball bearings these are a winner :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Chris M, as Chris Miller? Nice to talk to you again :) What are the lower four pieces: http://www.cobracompany.com/35030.htm? I'm looking to save some time as the interior is taking longer than expected and this might be my shortcut. Jure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Chris M, as Chris Miller? :rolleyes:/> Nice to talk to you again :)/> What are the lower four pieces: http://www.cobracompany.com/35030.htm? I'm looking to save some time as the interior is taking longer than expected and this might be my shortcut. Jure The lower four pieces are chaff/flare replacements for the kit ones. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 This bird has some wicked flushed boobs for dispensers, but the tail fin modification will come handy. Please check email. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I noticed that, going through some other forums however I'm not that good at painting and I don't belive i can make them come to life. If I can find some small ball bearings these are a winner :)/> What I do about painting these is to finish the outer ring with flat black, drop silver paint into the "eye' and after it's dry use a drop of clear orange to give it a reflective sheen. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Smart, very smart idea. I can try that. Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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