Modelkeenfan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Can anyone tell me what dumb bombs were used on the Saudi tornados in the first gulf war in 1991? We're they M-117 bombs the British used? Are they the same dum bombs in the 1/32 Revell RAF tornado kit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wxltcol Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Check this page out: https://www.dstorm.eu/pages/loadout/tornado.html. The Saudi load outs are down toward the bottom. Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modelkeenfan Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Yes thanks for that. I've seen it. I was wanting to know if the M-117 bombs were just the normal dumb dumb withe normal tail and are these the same bombs that come in the 1/32 Revell RAF tornado kit? I see the Saudis carried a dual rack that held 2 bombs on each rack and they carried a total of eight bombs (4 racks with 2 bombs on each dual rack) Maurizio at videoaviation has the M/117 resin bombs in 1/32 scale so I'll get some from him to put on my Saudi tornado Edited March 17, 2021 by Modelkeenfan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modelkeenfan Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Has anyone seen the F-104 dual bomb racks? They look exactly the same as the ones the Saudis used on their tornados to carry the M-117 bombs. Does anyone know if they are in fact the F-104 dual racks the Saudis used? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 The Twin Stores Carrier for the 104 was much thinner: https://img.17qq.com/images/hrshcctuwcx.jpeg the ones for the Tornado are a bit thicker: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/spike7451/6255_105874798826_725008826_2089127_769343_n.jpg Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrvark Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I would be SHOCKED if the Saudis used M117s. AFAIK, only the B-52s dropped M117s during ODS. I do remember seeing a video showing a Saudi IDS carrying Mk 84s on the outboard fuselage stations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modelkeenfan Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 The British used Mk 117/13 dumb bombs since the 50s. That is what the RAF started op GRANBY with and it was about a week or so into the war that they started using the paveway As they only introduced the TIALD targeting pods at the same time. But the RAF only had about 5 TIALD pods, so one tornado carried the TIALD pod and he did all he target paining for the rest of the tornados with the Paveways. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jabba29 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Modelkeenfan said: The British used Mk 117/13 dumb bombs since the 50s. That is what the RAF started op GRANBY with and it was about a week or so into the war that they started using the paveway As they only introduced the TIALD targeting pods at the same time. But the RAF only had about 5 TIALD pods, so one tornado carried the TIALD pod and he did all he target paining for the rest of the tornados with the Paveways. Also the Buccaneers that carried the Pave Spike had also arrived in theatre to lase for the Tornados. Also this might help with your original quest:- https://www.dstorm.eu/pages/loadout/tornado.html Edited March 27, 2021 by Jabba29 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modelkeenfan Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 Yes exactly right, the buccaneers did. The RAF rushed the TIALD pod, the Paveways and the ALARM missiles all into service at that time. Yes that is a good website. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jabba29 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 3/27/2021 at 4:32 AM, Modelkeenfan said: The British used Mk 117/13 dumb bombs since the 50s. That is what the RAF started op GRANBY with and it was about a week or so into the war that they started using the paveway As they only introduced the TIALD targeting pods at the same time. But the RAF only had about 5 TIALD pods, so one tornado carried the TIALD pod and he did all he target paining for the rest of the tornados with the Paveways. A slight correction here the RAF only had 2 TIALD pods, named Tracey and Sandra from Viz comics, but they did have 5 aircraft modded to be fitted with these pods. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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