dimi Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Hi. I am near finishing my first F-16 which represents a Shaw Viper (77th FSQ) back in Operation Iraqi Freedom. I am trying to gather up information regarding what kind of Weapons profile those vipers where using for SEAD missions. So far i have confirmed the following profile from Dan Hamptons book: 2 x AIM120 2 x AIM9 2 x CBU103 AN/ALE-50 ECM Anyone is aware of any other profiles? For instance , do they every carry HARMs with CBUs? I think i saw a photo where the Aircraft had like 4 x AIM120 missiles and 2 X HARMs Also, any chance i can find an aftermarket AN/ALE-50 ? if not, any other Kit out there which includes that part? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Recalling photos I saw (and cant find now), the loadout would be 3xAIM-120s, 1xAIM-9M, 2xAGM-88 or 2xCBU-103 and the misc. Not until 2011 over Libya, did I ever see a F-16 carry an asymmetric load with a HARM and JDAM. So I cant 100% say that a CBU103 and HARM were not carried together. I just feel that it would be a mix between the Element/Flight to have one of each jet configured for SEAD (-88s) and the other for DEAD (-103s) to allow that max capability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 389FS carried CBU-103 on one side and GBU-31 on the other in the early stages of the 00's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) @Niels I believe it. I saw the 23rd FS carrying a mix of GBU-38s on the BRU-57, offset by a TER with a pair of GBU-12s, back in 2006. But a HARM/CBU combo, I never saw until Odyssey Dawn with the 480th carrying HARM/GBU-31. Edited July 15, 2021 by ST0RM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) Twobobs Decals were kind enough to include a thorough detailing of the loadouts during the early days following 9/11; 48-033 F-16C 389th Mountain Home Gunfighters | 48-033 (twobobs.net) The mix of BRU-57 with GBU-38/54 and/or TER with GBU-12, alternatively mixed with BRU-61 with GBU-39 is still quite common. The SEAD units also interchange with the AGM-88 HARM aswell, the options are almost endless. Edited July 15, 2021 by Niels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dimi Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 @Niels@ST0RM Thanks for the replies. Clear things up. I have one more question tho In the above picture (thats from iraq 2003), is that a HARM missile on No8 or an AIM120? No7 seems to be a CBU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 15 hours ago, dimi said: @Niels@ST0RM Thanks for the replies. Clear things up. I have one more question tho In the above picture (thats from iraq 2003), is that a HARM missile on No8 or an AIM120? No7 seems to be a CBU AIM-120. Looks like 3xAIM-120 (1, 8 & 9) with a single AIM-9M on station 2. Glad to help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dan Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 This might help even if it's PACAF: Authorized PACAF loadouts May 2003. 35th FW F-16 page 20/21 https://www.scribd.com/document/138317434/PACAF-STANDARD-CONVENTIONAL-LOADS-May-2003-pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) On 7/16/2021 at 2:19 PM, ST0RM said: AIM-120. Looks like 3xAIM-120 (1, 8 & 9) with a single AIM-9M on station 2. Correct Storm. 3 and 7 holds CBU-87/103's, a bit difficult to see. There is a series of pictures of the 23FS 52FW in flight carrying everything from CBU-103 to AGM-88 to GBU-31 from the early days of the Afganistan ops, will try to find it and post/link as it is quite interesting Edited July 19, 2021 by Niels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 This one shows a mix of GBU-31 and CBU-103's - photo from 2005 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dimi Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 @dannailed it with that pdf! @Niels @ST0RM Thanks guys. I believe i have everything i need. It seems that the profile goes with the pair of the aircraft. IF No. 1 was carrying 2 X CBUs then No.2 would carry HARMs and vice versa. P.S The only information i cannot get no matter how hard i searched on the internet is a legit aircraft Serial No. Dan Hampton flew in 2003. All the rest i was able to find. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 From looking through some of his photos, it appears he's flown 00-225, 94-044 in the least. Hope it helps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 He would have flown any jet made available to him during the campaign, irrespective of being his assigned jet or not. He flew 86-0232 (23FS) during DS 1 which Bullseye has made decals of BMA48014 1:48 Bullseye Model Aviation Decals - F-16C F-16A Viper / Falcon 'Desert Storm Vipers II' - Sprue Brothers Models LLC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jabba29 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 There is a picture of a F-16CJ S/N 91-0353 of the 22nd FS Spangdahlem AB Germany receiving fuel during OIF showing it loaded with a HARM under one wing and a CBU under the other. This is in "Shock and Awe" by Greg L Davis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jabba29 said: There is a picture of a F-16CJ S/N 91-0353 of the 22nd FS Spangdahlem AB Germany receiving fuel during OIF showing it loaded with a HARM under one wing and a CBU under the other. This is in "Shock and Awe" by Greg L Davis. Oh wow. Excellent. Hopefully someone can scan that for dimi. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jabba29 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I would scan it, but I am not sure about copyright. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 AF91-0353 never flew with the 22FS, it has been with the 77FS since delivered new. It is the MiG killer from 1999 balkan war. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jabba29 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Only saying what it says in the book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 No problem 😉 Being a "serials nerd" I like to get things right. 52FW has 91-0351 and 91-0352, both now flying with the 480FS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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