A Typhoon Thread (Italeri Vs. Revell.)

[adats]

Hey,

after a while, i was thinking...

which would be better for a EF-2000, Revell or Italeri?

need a sort summary or review here!

Thank you!

Edited May 6, 2008 by adats

[Bobski]

Hey,

after a while, i was thinking...

which would be better for a EF-2000, Revell or Italeri?

need a sort summary or review here!

Thank you!

Revell all the way. It's got a more accurate shape for the production aircraft, better detail, better decals and better weapons.

[DamienB]

The Revell kit is amazingly detailed for the scale - a real work of art. Tons of weapons, huge decal sheet with options for loads of different aircraft - it really is a no brainer - the Italeri kit cannot compete.

[adats]

ok, did revell include any ground attack munitions?

i'm getting excited.

or is it qualified to use hasegawa weapons sets?

[Nev]

2 seater has AMRAAMs, Meteors, and Sidewinders. Single seater has that plus IRIS-Ts, Taurus x2 and Storm Shadow x 2

[adats]

ok...cruise missiles for lunch

What's the kit number or box name for the singe seater?

[ChernayaAkula]

EVERYTHING you need to know. Probably. Typhoon-related, that is. Edited April 4, 2008 by ChernayaAkula

[Hoops]

Be careful though, Revell did rebox the Italeri kit as their own for a while, and those might still be lurking around the hobby shops or mail order stores. Look for the box number that ChernayaAkula linked to: 04317, and the new twin seater is 04338.

You can see the box top for the twin seater here:

http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=RV4338

Hope this helps,

-Jared

[adats]

just a observation:

does the single seater includes the CFT already.

there's bulges at the fuselage.

correct me if i'm wrong!

too bad it does not include a centerline tank.

[Bobski]

just a observation:

does the single seater includes the CFT already.

there's bulges at the fuselage.

correct me if i'm wrong!

too bad it does not include a centerline tank.

I'm not sure what bulges you refer to, but there are no CFTs on Typhoon. As for the centreline tank, you could use one of the wing tanks if you're hanging ordnance off of the wing pylons.

As for air-to-ground ordnance, the kit comes with Storm Shadows, Taurus and (I think but I don't know) Paveway IIIs, none of which are correct for any of the aircraft built from the kit. If you want it to be accurate, you will want some UK Paveway IIs or UK 1,000lb dumb bombs out of the new Revell Tornado GR.1. You will also have to scratchbuild some inner wing pylons for the bombs if you want to have the tanks on the wings, as these are not in the kit, and remember to add the PIRATE sensor to the nose. You could make it a Tranche 2 aircraft, which would enable you to load the Storm Shadows or Taurus, but you'd be guessing on the markings and you'd have to remember to drill out the gun port on the starboard wing.

Edited April 4, 2008 by Bobski

[adats]

how many wing pylons does the typhoon have.?

and the PIRATE sensor, scratchbuilt or is it included in the kit?

and...did the kit provide all pylons for all the weapons included in the kit?

I want this kit as my first kit...

i't's starting to bug me out.

Edited April 4, 2008 by adats

[4scourge7]

Okay Adats, to take your points in turn.

The Typhoon is a swing role platform and has been seen in several configurations in RAF service with more to come. The NEW Revell single seat Typhoon comes in a fairly standard RAF fit of 4 X AMRAMM, 2 X ASRAAM and two tanks. However, there are also various weapons fits for you to mix and match including Storm Shadow, Taurus, Sidewinders, METEOR BVRAAM, (and I think IRIS-T but maybe not). No bombs as yet although Typhoon is due to fly with Enhanced Paveway II, III, and IV in Tranche Two machines.

You can use a centreline tank and free up the wing pylon for stuff. All possible Typhoon pylons are not yet included but are possible to scratch build with spares.

There are too many stores for the kit to carry which means some nice additions to the spares box.

PIRATE comes with the kit.

Here is some of what I have done with spare weapons and scratchbuilt pylons along with a review of the kit. The Typhoon (Block 5+) has since been renamed FGR4 and this particular machine has austere air-to-ground capability but I made it in the Quick Reaction Alert configuration with 4 X ASRAAM which it may not use but is presumably capable of.

http://www.s205409446.onlinehome.us/Gal7/6...n-Buick/00.shtm

Cheers, Ian

PS- watch the canopy fit, it is a pig.

Conformal Fuel Tanks have been discussed for an attack Typhoon but that is all I`ve heard so far.

Edited April 5, 2008 by Ian Buick

[adats]

OT:

FSM featured a 1/48 revell typhoon. kit # 04568. Jan. 2007 issue

it had GBU-24B's but no laser designator

how come?

one more thing,

About the Revell EF-2000 diorama set, is it just kit 4317 with accessories?

Edited April 6, 2008 by adats

[4scourge7]

The Typhoon designator pod hadn`t been confirmed during kit production but has since been confirmed as Litening III which I seem to remember that Dr Pepper Resins does a proper `reversed` version of.

The diorama set is the new build two-seater with ground kit which is worth getting, if you`re interested and can get it, as it has ceased production by Revell.

Cheers, Ian

[DamienB]

I'm not sure what bulges you refer to, but there are no CFTs on Typhoon.

Yes there are - they have not yet entered service though.

http://www.eurofighter-typhoon.co.uk/Eurof...er/weapons.html

and you'd have to remember to drill out the gun port on the starboard wing.

...root!

[4scourge7]

Nice link Damien

You`re right about the gun port also, and Revell have helpfully moulded the panel covering the apperture so it isn`t that difficult to find.

Cheers, Ian

[adats]

ok...

a gun port.

a out of production kit

and scratchbuilt pylons.

it's ok for me!

What brand of styrene tubing and sheets do you usually use?

and

Damien,

nice link,

so the EF-2000 can carry JDAM'S.

Edited April 7, 2008 by adats

[Bobski]

Yes there are - they have not yet entered service though.

No there aren't - those are a mock up. I can tell you for a fact that there are no CFTs and won't be for a very long time yet. There's nowhere on the jet for CFTs to connect to.

ok...

a gun port.

a out of production kit

and scratchbuilt pylons.

it's ok for me!

What brand of styrene tubing and sheets do you usually use?

and

Damien,

nice link,

so the EF-2000 can carry JDAM'S.

No JDAMS, and Typhoon can carry bombs - Paveway II and UK 1,000lb bombs have both been carried and released, as has the LITENING III pod. The kit comes with all the pylons you need apart from a second paid of missile rails for the QRA fit (they aren't the same as the outer wing rails, which have a chaff dispenser in them) and the inner wing pylons. They aren't too difficult to scratch-build though. The PIRATE sensor is in the kit and has to be used if you are fitting bombs. None of the weapons in the kit have even been flown on Typhoon yet, let alone integrated into service.

[adats]

i do not want to arm my Typhoons with JDAM's

i'm gonna build them in German.

so if i build them In British QRA configuration,

i need to scratchbuild the pylons.

and if i arm the Cruise missiles, no scratchbuilding required and i can't equip the fuel tanks.?

Edited April 7, 2008 by adats

[4scourge7]

Adats, I don`t know if you checked my link fron the ARC Gallery in this thread (post #12) but that is the current Typhoon QRA fit for The RAF, and how I did it, yes you`ll need an extra pair of pylons and ASRAAM.

Typhoons are unlikely to equip with JDAM because Enhanced Paveway has a dual laser/GPS function.

The German fit is different to RAF fit and will have IRIS-T instead of ASRAAM.

You can have Storm Shadow or Taurus on your current Revell kit AND hang a fuel tank to the centreline station, but as Bobski has said, these missiles are yet to be fitted (although one day will be).

Cheers, Ian

PS- Looking forward to seeing that benchwork of Bobski`s completed.

Edited April 7, 2008 by Ian Buick

[adats]

To Ian,

I've checked your EF-2000 way before.

yes i understand how you built it.

sorry for my bad english.

[4scourge7]

No worries Adats, and your English is better than any language I have attempted to speak so I should be apologising to you.

Best thing is to keep asking questions. Each nation has a different fit for Typhoon so what goes in Germany may not go for the UK, for example.

Plus, the Typhoon project is changing each month, so up to date info from guys like Bobski is very useful.

Cheers, Ian

[adats]

let me get this clear.

are US pylons similar to British pylons (modify those to get it right)

so, the typhoon can carry LGB's(dual) without the LITENING pod.?

I'm reffering to this german machine:

EF-2000w/GBU-12

i'll have to talk to drpepper for this...

Edited April 8, 2008 by adats

[Bobski]

PS- Looking forward to seeing that benchwork of Bobski`s completed.

It's been painted - I'm scratching the pylons now (two inner wing pylons for the Paveways and a centreline pylon for the LITENING III pod) and it will need some weathering when it's been assembled. Once it's done I'll take some photos and I'll try to get them online.

Adats:

The pylons are similar in appearance, but you may have some problems with size. As a guide, the rear edge of the pylon should sit just in front of the main u/c bay. It meets the wing all the way from there to just before the slats on the leading edge of the wing. Unfortunately I personally can't give you any more detail than that, but you will be able to find plenty of photos online.

Typhoon can carry LGBs without an LD pod - it would just need something else to designate for it (either another a/c or ground personnel with a laser designator).

I try to keep as up to date as possible, although for obvious reasons I can't go into as much detail as some people may like...

[adats]

Since they look alike.

does that give clearance for Hasegawa weapons set 5?

and a lot of styrene and knives..hehehe.

thanks Bobski!