longmc Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Can anyone tell me when the emergency Hydraulic system was added to the spine of the -105? Is there a single point reference for kit conversions? I have a few kits I want to build of the -105 at various times and need to know which should have what. thanks Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Irving Babbitt Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 No clue, but I found this at the bottom of page 3 and figured it was worth bumping. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Dave Aungst had a good article about backdating a 1/48 Monogram Thud over on Hyperscale. Not sure when they started adding the spine. Late '60s? Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenlilly106 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 If you can find the date that T.O. 1F-105-1049 went into effect that will tell you. IIRC it was sometime during Vietnam. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I checked the pics I have of 4th TFW camouflaged Thuds, and they don't have the spine fairing or the strike camera under the nose. They left VN in 1966, so I guess the mod came after that. Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longmc Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 The pics I have of the 388th in '66-early '67 don't have it either, but do have the ALR-25/26. Some had cameras and some didn't. Then the pics I have of 355th in '69-70 seem to have the spine. I have lots of info on the mods being made, but nothing that gives a date. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenlilly106 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Sounds like you've narrowed it down as best as you can, I looked through some other references after my post above and all of them reference the same T.O. I noted and w/o a date. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 The Republic F-105 book by Robert Archer mentions that $33,000,000 had been spent on Thud mods by Dec 67 and one of those mods was a third hydraulic system. Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lock n' Load Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Dave Aungst had a good article about backdating a 1/48 Monogram Thud over on Hyperscale. Not sure when they started adding the spine. Late '60s?Ben 1964 during operation Backbone after the Thunderbird incident if i'm correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aim9xray Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 If you can find the date that T.O. 1F-105-1049 went into effect that will tell you.IIRC it was sometime during Vietnam. Ken Wasn't that a TCTO? (Might help with web search...?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C-130CrewChief Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Wasn't that a TCTO? (Might help with web search...?) Was thinking the same thing Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenlilly106 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Wasn't that a TCTO? (Might help with web search...?) Don't think so, my references list it as a T.O. only. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C-130CrewChief Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The way it's numbered looks like a TCTO. The 1049th TCTO for the F-105. Just my 2 cents worth. If you have the references then who am I to argue...lol Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenlilly106 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 And it may very well be a TCTO, I have no idea if it is or not. The big question is where can I get a copy of the TO? That would tell us the date this change went into effect. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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