David Walker Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I posted this in "Real Aviation" but thought I'd add it here too. sundowner posted this photo a few days ago and it didn't get much notice, but I've found myself more and more curious about it. Does NSAWC have many of these, and what is their role? Are they strictly for support or are they used as adversaries? It's certainly an attractive scheme for an SH-60. Thanks for any information, and if there are any more photos of these helicopters floating around I'd love to see them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 They play the role of red air helicopters (e.g. Hind et al) during CSAR events. Also used in conjunction with the SWTI (Seahawk Weapons and Tactics Instructor) Course - their equivalent of TOPGUN - and, if I'm not mistaken, the Mountain Flying Course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Thanks for the follow-up on that. Boy I'd love to see decals for one of these. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pavelow44 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 If I recall correctly, they also have an all black one and a desert cammo one (much like the F-18s). BUT.....I have been known to be wrong. Still a nice looking bird though. Thanks for sharing the pic. Cheers Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 That's just cool! I may have to build one of those someday.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 (edited) I definitely agree. It just looks great in green. And it would be great to see one in desert camo too. Edited January 4, 2007 by David Walker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Found some other photos from around 1999, 2000 or so: #72 163287 (perhaps in an earlier scheme): #71 164089, the before mentioned desert scheme: and #70 164092, an infamous "black helicopter": and photos from Modeling Madness, http://modelingmadness.com/others/features/nsawc/nsawc6.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 That look kinda like FS34079 to anyone else, or is it just me? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Nice...I'd seen the desert and the gray years ago, but the green one is a new one on me. Very nice! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 That look kinda like FS34079 to anyone else, or is it just me? The green one? I don't think so, not dark enough to be -79. I find it closer to 34102 or 34095 perhaps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 That look kinda like FS34079 to anyone else, or is it just me? I'm just wondering if there's more than one shade of green in there. It's hard to tell with the contrast of the photo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Another shot of the desert scheme SH-60, apparently after it moved on to HS-10, in 2004: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0518281/M/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pavelow44 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 That look kinda like FS34079 to anyone else, or is it just me? The green one? I don't think so, not dark enough to be -79. I find it closer to 34102 or 34095 perhaps. Ok, you guys are REALLY starting to scare me. I mean, who memorizes FS numbers. LOL Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Ok, you guys are REALLY starting to scare me. I mean, who memorizes FS numbers. LOL Matt WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL....all of them, forget it. But a few key ones do stick out to be readily recognized...36440, for example, is the gull gray for USN planes I've been using for 20 yrs now. 34079 is easily identified as dark green used on every single SEA and Euro I scheme ever done. And the modern Tomcat/USN folks often have the three colors of the TPS memorized. Beyond that I have no clue. Except 20400 Tan. The other colors I quoted simply b/c I was able to walk 4 feet from my computer and pick up the bottles to check. :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pavelow44 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL....all of them, forget it. But a few key ones do stick out to be readily recognized...36440, for example, is the gull gray for USN planes I've been using for 20 yrs now. 34079 is easily identified as dark green used on every single SEA and Euro I scheme ever done. And the modern Tomcat/USN folks often have the three colors of the TPS memorized. Beyond that I have no clue. Except 20400 Tan. The other colors I quoted simply b/c I was able to walk 4 feet from my computer and pick up the bottles to check. :D I figured it was something like that. You guys just amaze me sometimes with what knowledge you have gathered over the years. Maybe one day I can learn.....................ok, probably not, but it sounded good. Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Would it help to mention we didn't memorize them on purpose? I mean, we didn't exactly stay up countless nights drilling ourselves on the Federal Standards list....or at least I didn't... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hmmm... NSAWC SH-60 Decal sheet anyone? please? Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hmm...if one is in a bind, I suspect it could be neatly "fudged" with spare decals including the old Topgun badge (identical to the NSAWC except the lightning, I think...) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hmm...if one is in a bind, I suspect it could be neatly "fudged" with spare decals including the old Topgun badge (identical to the NSAWC except the lightning, I think...) The NSAWC logo you see there, and still used on both our Vipers and Hornets, is just a combination of the TOPGUN patch and the lightning flash from STRIKE U (the two main predecessors of NSAWC). You could certainly use that for some of these helicopters. Not too long ago (I'm not sure when - I'll try to remember to ask around to find out) the NSAWC helos replaced the TOPGUN patch with the SWTI logo. They still have the lightning thingie though, if memory serves. Like I said, it wasn't TOO long ago, so you could use the fighter weapons school emblem and still be accurate for everything except very recent times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Seems to be 2 threads on this. Just posted in the real aviation forum, but here's a shot again. Only one on the hard drive but got them all in 98 and 01 somewhere around here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 (edited) Yeah, I thought it might get a bit more traffic over here. Nice photo. There's one other of that helicopter on the first page of this thread. And I'd really like to see the rest of your photos when you track them down. Edited January 4, 2007 by David Walker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hmmm... NSAWC SH-60 Decal sheet anyone? Boy, that would be fantastic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RotorheadTX Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Boy, that would be fantastic. Hawkeye Models in Oz.....1/72nd scale DS-040 SH-60F NSAWC (gloss black special) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobrahistorian Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Do they do em in 48th? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 That would be my question also. I've already got the 1/48 kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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