jwest21 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I was looking at Wolfpacks Rafale M Mass production set and wondering if it can be used on the B version. Would the chaff and flare dispensers be the same? And is the M Rafale's nose different than the B and C? http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=WP-48032 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 The parts are applicable to the B/C as well. Stephen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 thanks Steven. I wanted to update the HB B but wasn't sure if this would work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I ordered the set also. It looks like the same embedded dispensers in all of the Rafales, although some also have an additional system with two tubes projecting aft from the rear wing root chines. I’ve seen this on some Rafales, including M’s, although some still have the plain flattened rear wing root as in the kit. The Wolfpack set doesn’t include the tube dispensers, but as noted, some have them and some don’t. The gun cover and vent in the set should be applicable to B/C models also. I wish the set would include new Mica IR seeker heads. You get new wingtip launchers, but the kits only include the EM version. Can't wait until October when RoG reissues the Rafale with the updates, plus triple LGB racks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glynn Jacobs Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Wow, I wish SOMEONE would do this set in 72nd scale and also add a corrected cockpit and rear decking area for the Italeri Rafale M. Hey, why stop there, we could sure use some modern weps, sensors and fuel tanks too! Oh, and the same stuff for the Mirage 2000, including Spirale ECM gear! Just Dreaming, WARDOG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 I ordered the set also. It looks like the same embedded dispensers in all of the Rafales, although some also have an additional system with two tubes projecting aft from the rear wing root chines. I’ve seen this on some Rafales, including M’s, although some still have the plain flattened rear wing root as in the kit. The Wolfpack set doesn’t include the tube dispensers, but as noted, some have them and some don’t. The gun cover and vent in the set should be applicable to B/C models also.I wish the set would include new Mica IR seeker heads. You get new wingtip launchers, but the kits only include the EM version. Can't wait until October when RoG reissues the Rafale with the updates, plus triple LGB racks the only place I have seen the Mica seaker heads is in the Sky Raider Designs set Which kit is RoG redoing- the M or the B/C? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 the only place I have seen the Mica seaker heads is in the Sky Raider Designs setWhich kit is RoG redoing- the M or the B/C? I've been periodically checking out the SMDS site for a while, but most of their Rafale resin has been out of stock like their B/C/M update set, which has not only the Mica IR heads, but also the other countermeasures dispensers at the trailing edge of the wingroot. RoG is reissuing the B kit and it looks like it will come with the updates built in. http://data4.primeportal.net/models/thomas...ll_01_of_52.jpg http://data4.primeportal.net/models/thomas...ll_03_of_52.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 yeah, I keep checking the site too and my timing is terrible. I always remember to check right after they sell out a batch Great about the B...that one is my favorite one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I wish SOMEONE would do this set in 72nd scale and also <...> I believe someone asked an Italeri representative at some show about a new1/72 Rafale and said representative answered that they don't think of making a new mould, but rather updating the old moulds "in the near future". I think I read that here on the boards somewhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gustav53 Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I was looking at Wolfpacks Rafale M Mass production set and wondering if it can be used on the B version. Would the chaff and flare dispensers be the same? And is the M Rafale's nose different than the B and C?http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=WP-48032 Hi, Thank you for your interest. Our set is only available Rafale M. Next item is Rafale B Mass Production set for Revell/Hobbyboss 1/48. Because, Rafale B's rear shape is different and add MICA IR seaker by clear resin. Revell Germany's new additional Rafale B need more parts. (Wing tip pylon and etc.) We have a plan for Update set for Revell Germany's new Rafale kit. Thank you. Best Regards, Gustav Jung from Wolfpack-Design http://www.wolfpack-d.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) The different rear ends shown in the photos above aren't a specific B vs. M difference, they are just a different Rafale standard. Some Ms have the same setup, but many don't. http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Na...le-M/1277153/L/ http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Na...le-M/1274067/L/ Any chance of making the Mica IR heads available separately for use on the M, Gustav? Edited March 11, 2008 by Dave Williams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolf_el_Real Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 When Wolfpack will release the CFT's for the Rafale B ? (Revel 1/48) Regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 The different rear ends shown in the photos above aren't a specific B vs. M difference, they are just a different Rafale standard. Some Ms have the same setup, but many don't.http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Na...le-M/1277153/L/ http://www.airliners.net/photo/France---Na...le-M/1274067/L/ Dave's right.The flare dispensers are on all production Rafale M/B/C and are referred to as the F1 standard.F2 standard introduced the chaff dispensers as well and they'll be retro fitted to bring aircraft up to the F2 standard.Rafale M F1's had provision for MICA EM (radar) and Magic II missiles whereas F2 brought in MICA IR capability as well. Stephen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaydar Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 the only place I have seen the Mica seaker heads is in the Sky Raider Designs setWhich kit is RoG redoing- the M or the B/C? Who carries Sky Raider Designs? This is a new name to me. Thanks, joe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Who carries Sky Raider Designs?This is a new name to me. Thanks, joe. I've only seen their stuff available on their web site. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Who carries Sky Raider Designs?This is a new name to me. Thanks, joe. http://www.smds.ws/ Great service. Stephen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaydar Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 http://www.smds.ws/ Great service.Stephen \ Stephen, thanks so much, joe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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