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Interesting! I got the info second hand about the crash. Always good to get a firsthand account. I think at the time I was flying with the 218th Med Det RC out of Hood Feild. We worked Monday - Friday, and only during the day as we only had two birds and 6 pilots, 3 RLO's and 3 WO's. When that unit stood down, I moved over to 3/507th Lifesaver at RGAA. So, I likely launched from the bottom of the tower when you were there. Cheers, Bryan

Great info! I flew 296 to EDW. Planed the flight over a weekend and had a great time. I made sure we did an RON at DM so I could photograph the Bone Yard on the way out. Bryan

That would likely be the figure for unmodified systems, as the cell 1 & 2 in the NATOPS 15 Aug 1985 CH-46E (SR&M) manual I have list them at 177.6 Gql each, (I think I misread the doc earlier.) With provisions for up to 3 250 Gal internal tanks on pallets. The little sir scoop on the Port side near the top of the cabin is to pressurize the (to a degree) the aux tanks. You can see it in most shots of the SR&M birds, mid way up the "M" for MARINES. Sometimes it spans both the M & A. I have s shot of a CH-46E 153372 at PAX, that apparently is one of the prototypes(?), it lack

I think that took place when I was at the MCCOG at Quantico. Your point about the APU is interesting. Below is a close up of the engineering drawing showing the outline of the short and long pylons. While I knew about the APU VS No APU on the BV/KV birds I did not know about the differences in the pylons. I pretty much stopped research on the Phrog about 5 years ago, focusing instead on the OH-58/206. Have managed to get a lot of shots, and two different types of IR suppressor stacks.

Hi Matt, Likely a lot of what your heard was accurate, I just know of some of the broad strokes. You can get in touch with me via email initially. BryanHWilburn@Reagan.com. As an aside, I was one of the pilots that delivered the UH-1H RC birds to Edwards in late 1975. I think at least one of them were kept with the fire suppression gear. We had a lot of fun working 500 Gal fuel spills in the Gray AAF fire pit. One of the most memorable was a nigh fire training session, it got awful dark when the fire went out! When you get a chance reach out and we'll

The shot I posted was a MOD, so it's a good bet you had drums. Maybe never know what drove the change, maybe interchangeability on parts? Bryan

Dutch, Not sure when the program started that created the Bull Phrog. The SR&M program was initiated in the 80's, but in the early 90's not all the birds had been updated to the Bull Phrog config. and as you pointed out, not all the birds go the big tanks. I was going over some engineering drawings the other day and came across a tid bit, the H-46A and H-46D had a short pylon, and an overall fuselage length of 540.3". While the CH-46D and CH-46F had a long pylon and overall length 547.5". Both the NATOPS manuals I have H-46D SR&M and CH-46E have the fuselag

Dutch, Here's a Boeing shot of the float deployed at the factory in an engineering test. the scoops are to increase stabilization. Boeing shot

You are absolutely correct on the YHC-1, prior to 6 Nov 1956 the AF had an iron grip on Army aircraft procurement. However, in an MOA dated 6 Nov 1956 issued by Assistant Secretary of Defense (Supply and Logistics) gave the Army access to the Navy for procurement of some AC and aviation equipment. As the Navy had responsibility for the OH-13 and OH-23, the Army went through the Navy directly to obtain these two airframes by passing the Air Force. Additional OH-13/OH-23's were purchased from the Navy via a NIPR. They also utilized the Navy for initial Aquisition of the engine th

Great info, what was the capacity increased to? Bryan

Hey Floyd, just bounced some texts back and forth with Hugh, he seems to recall the switch over point box to can for the 7.62 was the AH-1Q. In '75 the AH-1S MOD birds had the cans. But like everything else with the early AH-1/Q/S details, that goes back 48 years.... Bryan

Bull Phrog, 153960 CH-46E HMM-365 YM-00 New River NC 5-13-1992 For those of you who don’t know what a “Bull Phrog” is, in the late 80’s/early 90’s the USN/USMC decided that the power off capabilities of the CH-46 were somewhat lacking. If you pulled the poser off on the water you might end up swimming. I’ve been through the dunker at NAS Norfolk, not a lot of fun! On flat dead calm seas the 46 could float power off, but then again, you rarely get dead calm flat seas on the ocean. The BV-107’s of the Swedish AF/Nav had larger “tip” tanks on the sponsons, and the KV-

At some point they switched from the box to circular magazine. In the shots I posted there is a round mag on the RH side, the side the minigun is on. The shots I posted above are from the 1975 time frame. So they at least switched by then. It might have been only the early AH-1G's had the box. So likely late/Post Viet Nam was "cans". In the scans below both the 40mm and 7.62 mags were "cans". These are scans out of a doc I got when I went through AMOC in 1980/1981. While I went through on the OH-58 track, we learned background stuff on all the birds. These scans are from th

Following shots are of the YAH-1S (Mod) AKA "Mod-S", 70-16055, taken at Fort Hood around April 1975 or so. It was a fly off between (I seem to recall) an AH-1Q and a "brand new" YAH-1S upgraded likely from an AH-1G. As you can see the circular ammo can is on the right, but the 40mm "Chuker" is on the left... Or at least I think this is a Q, if I can read the really grainy shot... And also pre "Aircraft Green" CARC (Chemical Agent Resistant Coatings) days. CARC also had an IR reduction capability, that really screwed with camera meters... Back in the "good old days"

And finally the control station for the TELAR, Transporter Erector Launcher And Radar. Positions for the three-intercept crew, and the major parts of the stations. When and if I find the slides for the SA-9 and SA-13 I'll post those. For those who want to do a killer SA-8, this should help. Happy modeling.