jwest21 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I was trying to nail down the colors for the insides of the F-105's main gear doors and also the color of the fuel drain. Looking around, the majority of the gear doors appear to be either a very dirty white, some sort of gray or silver. On a lot of the restored static planes, it is white but looking through wartime B/W pictures, the shade looks darker- but that might be shadows?. Also, is the fuel drain the same color as the under side of the fuselage or red- I keep seeing both, so I was thinking it was a "check your references"- but then again, most of the light gray ones seem to be on the refurbished static birds. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Looking thru some of my books it looks like the fuel drain colours vary from red to natural metal to under side colour. In the F-105 Thundercief book by J.C. Scutts on pg24, there is a b&w pic that shows the bottom 1/3 of the vent in a dark colour, red?, while rest looks to be the same shade as the under side colour. Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog 09 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 (edited) Hey Jwest21, If you can wait a day I can go shoot you some photos of all the landing gear bays on the F-105 we have sitting over at our museum. It is still in its original paint that it wore when we received it from the guard. It is in the middle of being restored right now so I am unsure if the fuel drain is installed. If it is I will get some shot's of it too. Let me know if you need any other area's photographed. I know that the bomb bay is wide open right now if that interest you any. Dave Fassett Edited October 15, 2008 by Bulldog 09 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 So it sounds like I need to find pics of the bird I am working on for the fuel drain. Dave- any pics you can get would be awesome! Thanks. I can wait- I am working on the ordnance right now anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Some other Thud walkaround pics here: http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/f-105/thud04.shtml Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jack in El Paso Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 You might want to check out the Squadron Signal Walk Around monograph; #23. Good detail photos of operational birds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenlilly106 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 See my answer to this question over on HS. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 thanks for the walk around and the book recommendation (just ordered it) Will do, ken thanks all! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog 09 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Hey Jwest21, Here you go! Let me warn you I took a butt load of pictures. I was unable to get a picture of the fuel dump and arrestor hook. They are both in creates right now. But I was assured by a level 9 crew chief that worked on F-105's that the fuel dump was indeed painted red. As for the color of the landing gear here you go. Hub’s, struts, and gear retraction strut are aluminum in color. The inside of the wheel well's and the landing gear doors are white. I also snapped some photos of the antennas on the nose, one was broken off but I outlined its shape for you. There is a couple shot's of the bomb bay which I took just in case you wanted them. And last but not least some of the inside and out of the speed breaks. I took these to show the different shades of metal and the effects of the burner on the inside. Hope these help you out. Dave Fassett Front wheel bay and strut. Bay aft section. Bay forward section. Bay starboard mid section. Gear struts. Notice that the gear doors are missing, so is the ILS radar reflector and landing / taxi lights. I will post more tonight after I get back from taking the kids to the circus. Dave Fassett Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Man, that is fantastic! Thanks so much!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jester292 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Awesome references, absolutely invaluable! Thanks Dave! Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 (edited) I just returned from the Evergreen Museum. I went for the Mig 17. However. I did shoot a few more of the F-105 two seater. They finally were able to get the canopy open. The fuel dump on that one is painted red on the tip of the dump. The wheelwells are white. Edited October 17, 2008 by Harold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenlilly106 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 I don't think white for the gear bays is appropriate unless you're modeling one of the last survivors in the late 70's or early 80's, and even then I think it was rare. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog 09 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 (edited) Starboard side main wheel bay. Section against fuselage and secondary air intake duct. Section facing aft. Gear attachment point and retraction arm. Gear well facing forward. Landing gear strut, wheel, and doors. Dave Fassett Edited October 17, 2008 by Bulldog 09 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted October 17, 2008 Author Share Posted October 17, 2008 perfect...thanks again! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog 09 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 (edited) Port side wheel well. Section against fuselage and secondary air intake duct. Gear well facing forward. Gear attachment point and retraction arm. Section facing aft. Dave Fassett Edited October 17, 2008 by Bulldog 09 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog 09 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 (edited) Landing gear strut, wheel, and doors. Same for starboaed side. Break line attachment point on wheel hub. Same on starboard side. Dave Fassett Edited October 17, 2008 by Bulldog 09 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog 09 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 (edited) Here are the antennas on the nose. Starboard side pitot-static tube. AOA. The holes at the bottom of the photo below were caused by the gun gases, this was common on the 105. These panels had to be repaired quite often from what I understand. These two are just aft of the front main wheel well. I am unsure of what they are, maybe some one here knows. Port side. Facing aft. Port side. Facing aft. Starboard side. Starboard side. This one broke off during transport. I have traced the shape of it to show how it looks. It is identical to the one on the port side behind the main wheel well. This one is on the starboard side in front of the main wheel well. I will try and get a better shot of it's exact location tomorrow. Dave Fassett Edited October 17, 2008 by Bulldog 09 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog 09 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 (edited) These are drain tubes on the port side. The second tube further up the nose is bent, but at one point it looked like the one further aft. I will get better shot’s of their location tomorrow as well. Bent one. Dave Fassett Edited October 18, 2008 by Bulldog 09 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog 09 Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Alright then. Here are the bomb bay photos. Front of bay. Electrical / fuse boxes. Payload jettison ram. Aft end of bomb bay. Sway braces. The end. Tomorrow I will post the pictures of the speed breaks. Dave Fassett Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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