Desertpilot Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 Very nice progress. Do you think there's going to be a weight issue toward the tail? Not sure at this point. Most of the bulk of the weight of the model is taken up with the intake trunks and canards. With the use of the Isracast spine, it might add more but that is yet to be seen. I'm contemplating doing this "wheels up" mid-ACM missle launch, but again, that is still up in the air. I don't like the layout of the landing gear with the body splice in the middle, the gear is very close coupled in the center. More to follow! DP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Man, this is lookin' great! Regarding the wheels: How about a MLG approach as on the Suchoi Flankers? You could move the MLG legs back as far as possible and have them retract into the wing/fuselage joint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sauragnmon Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Looks good with the conjoined intakes so far - you going to keep the inside curves on them? You could T the joins, and give them a smooth curve in from the straight lines and flow up to the intake trunks, or go with a Tiffie style flat split in the center. That's just my two pennies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjo Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Oh my, two F-2s were harmed making this thing! And i cant even find ONE! hard to get here in Oz, one day... maybe, one day. But, this is looking EXCELLENT!!!!!!! My F-16XFU Gyrfalcon's got company! Benny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Looks like the F-2 and the Gripen got together and had a kid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desertpilot Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 I've been on travel with my work. Going to get some work done tonight. I've decided to ditch the "dual 16" intakes and make a brand new one using the Superhornet intakes. The dry fit is looking promising, so I'll get some work done tonight and post some pic's. DP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desertpilot Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Sorry for the delay all, this project has been challenging. I've decided to go with an F-18E/F intake, the blending of which is pretty difficult. Here is a shot of the currently puttied upper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sotoolslinger Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Man that is a heck of a project . Really looking forward to this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desertpilot Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 sotoolslinger, you're not kidding. I've had to do this all with no milliput as well. My local hobby shop is out and I had to order some on-line, it's taking FOR EVER to get here. DP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherC Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 This project is freaking cool! Are you going to finish it as a Japanese bird or something else? Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desertpilot Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) This project is freaking cool! Are you going to finish it as a Japanese bird or something else?Chris Chris, I was contemplating doing it as a Polish challenge to the Flanker, but I've decided to go WAY more radical that that. I'm still working on the back story a bit, but I will say this... There will be a return to the Japanese Imperial Navy, a re-birth of the Yamato into a super-carrier and then I suspect we will soon see the birth of a sea-going Viper II in two tone Japanese Imp. Navy blues... Just to keep the mouths wet... Edited January 13, 2009 by Desertpilot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desertpilot Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) Alright boys and girls, it's a long read, but here it is, the history of the development and initial fielding of the Mitsubishi Heavy Industries F-2S Viper II... Development history of the Mitsubishi Heavy Industries F-2S Viper II: By Desertpilot Late in the year 2010 in the midst of a global depression, Communist China decided that its sovereign islands to the south had overstepped their bounds. In a bid to dominate the conflict as much as possible, the Chinese Navy set out to control the shipping lanes and fishing grounds of the Eastern China Sea. This action was enforced initially by Chinas substantial submarine force, sinking any foreign vessel in its waters and later on in the conflict by China’s supercarrier, the Peoples Liberation Navy Ship Mao and its air arm of J-10N and J-11N fighters. Tired of demanding action on the part of the UN to force China into a position of negotiation, and faced with a bolstered North Korea leadership, Japanese Prime Minister Masahiko Kōmura, with insistence from Emperor Akihito himself, pushed the Diet to approve the dismantling of the JMSDF and the formation of a new Imperial Japanese Navy in its place. Given the pressure from Chinese navy operating so closely to Japanese territorial waters and the incursion of N. Korean mini-subs into its northern waters, the IJN was forced to adopt a position power projection across its coastlines. This power projection was enabled by the radical conversion of the Japanese Ultra Large Crude Carrier Bright Artemis, into the IJN Akagi II. Faced with the improved performance of modified Chinese and Russian naval fighters and interceptors, the IJN needed a multi-roll, fast, maneuverable, semi-LRO fighter that could operate from the Akagi II. Resistance from the U.S. Congress for direct military assistance and the reluctance technical input from the U.S. aerospace industry forced the IJN into the position of modifying an existing aircraft for shipboard use. While the Phantom was still soldiering on in JASDF service, it was determined to be far too costly to modify to meet the IJNs pressing needs. The IJN therefore turned to Mitsubishi Heavy Industries to provide a solution in the form of a naval-ised F-2 Kai to suite its needs. Due to the expanse of ocean that the fighter was to cover and potential weapons load it would have to employ in order to face a Chinese aerial confrontation, the F-2 was substantially modified. A strengthened fuselage incorporating the installation of two thrust vectoring IJF135 turbofan engines (speculatively supplied to MHI via Israeli F-35A's). Low observable, variable geometry engine inlets and LO coated wing and canard surfaces enabled the F-2S (Twin Viper as it was designated by its IJN crews) to evade detection by the PESA radars of the J-10N and J-11N fighters while on patrol. This revelation in detection avoidance served to bolster the confidence of both the Twin Viper crews and their leadership. This confidence was key in the decision making process when the Japanese commercial fleet whaler Hikarushima-*****, was sunk off the coast of Miyako-Jima in June of 2013. In response to the sinking of the Hikarushima-*****, the newly christened 324 meter long IJN Akagi II accompanied by its expansive fleet of converted JMSDF frigates and destroyers sailed into the Eastern China Sea. Commanded by Fleet Admiral Akira Takano, great grandson of Isoroku Yamamoto, the Akagi II sortied twenty of its F-2S Twin Vipers to attack the PLNS Mao and her fleet. Avoiding detection until approximately 20 NM out, the F-2S’s of the IJN scored direct hits on both the PLNS Mao and her escort frigate the PLNS Nanjing with their ASM-3 missiles. The hits on the Nanjing were severe enough at the waterline to break her back and she quickly sunk with all hands on board. While greatly damaging the Mao, the attack did not sink her and the Mao was able to launch six J-11N interceptors to challenge the CAP of four F-2S’s covering the exiting attack force. Using their superior SAAB designed IRST, coupled with the Fujitsu-Shoei HMD, the pilots of 1st Naval Fighter Squadron Tokugawa easily maneuvered into position to meet the ascending J-11Ns. In the ensuing dogfight, the pilots of 1st Tokugawa downed all 6 J-11s, 2 with Mauser cannon fire and 4 with Python 4J missiles. Only one F-2S was damaged in the fight, having to soldier back to the Akagi II on one engine and half of a right wing. This action served to quickly check the Chinese expansion in the Eastern China Sea and announced to the North Korean leadership that any aggression towards their eastern neighbors would no be tolerated. Given the resistance that the ROCAF was exhibiting on the PLAAF and the damage that their Mirage 2000s had done to Hong Kong, the Chinese government discreetly reached out, via French diplomats, to the Japanese and Taiwanese leadership to reach an agreement to end hostilities. This is just the begining, I will get into greater design detail as the project contiues. This story serves to highlight my train of thougtht while designing the Viper II. Hope you enjoyed it so far... DP Edited January 13, 2009 by Desertpilot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sotoolslinger Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Desert Pilot screw Milliput go to Home Despot and get some Polymeric Systems inc. (PSI) AquaMend. It's usually in the paint dept with the glues. It's good, works wet, and is about 1/3 the price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Danm, love the backstory! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 <...>Hope you enjoyed it so far... Very much so! :) Really nice back-story! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desertpilot Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Sorry about the delay guys, have been on business back east. I've got some work done on this little beast and will be posting some pic's tonight. I ended up scrapping the entire intake assembly and stealing a new one from the Super Hornet. You'll see... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Sorry about the delay guys, have been on business back east. I've got some work done on this little beast and will be posting some pic's tonight. I ended up scrapping the entire intake assembly and stealing a new one from the Super Hornet. You'll see... :D Imagine a Pomeranian that just drank two Redbulls and is listening to Slipknot on notch twenty of the volume control. that's how excited I am to see this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
illithid00 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Imagine a Pomeranian that just drank two Redbulls and is listening to Slipknot on notch twenty of the volume control. that's how excited I am to see this. I thought volume only goes to eleven. :D 25 heavy metal points if you get the ref. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 ^ I only know this motivational pic. "Eleven. One louder!" Waiting for more of this fantatsic build and the equally fantastic backstory! :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherC Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I thought volume only goes to eleven. 25 heavy metal points if you get the ref. "Why not just make 10 louder?" " :o ... ours go up to 11" Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
illithid00 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 "Why not just make 10 louder?"" ... ours go up to 11" Chris I knew someone would get it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desertpilot Posted February 12, 2009 Author Share Posted February 12, 2009 Sorry guys, got called away to Dayton on a last minute trip. Hopefully a swing by the AF Museum will juice up the creativity a notch when I get home tomorrow night... DP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desertpilot Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Alright, got some work done on this beast tonight. Have a look: And the intakes!!! Other side: I've figured out how the Milliput works and am having fun with it. More to follow!!! DP out! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 ...dude...I...Love...You...I...Have...Never...Seen...Such...A...Sweet...A**...Bu ild... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Those intakes look fantastic! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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