Raptor.777 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I was kind of curious when the Israelis made the change to the GE engines over the Pratt and Whitney engines? I plan on doing a F-15D from like the 90s or around that time frame. I bought the Eduard kit that has the Israeli decals and instructions. Have some GE engine nozzles and afterburner tubes from my other Academy kits. The instructions for the Israeli F-15D shows the PW engine nozzles. Was also planning on using some Python 4s and AMRAAM 120Bs. Would that be an appropriate weapon load for air to air? Thanks for any info Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I’ve never heard that Israel re-engined their Eagles to GE engines. Even the Ra’am came with P&W engines. Their A/B/C/D did leave the turkey feathers on for quite a long while after the USAF had removed theirs, but that’s the only engine related change that I know. I’m 99.99% sure a 90s IAF Eagle had P&W engines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor.777 Posted September 15, 2023 Author Share Posted September 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, Dave Williams said: I’ve never heard that Israel re-engined their Eagles to GE engines. Even the Ra’am came with P&W engines. Their A/B/C/D did leave the turkey feathers on for quite a long while after the USAF had removed theirs, but that’s the only engine related change that I know. I’m 99.99% sure a 90s IAF Eagle had P&W engines. saw a video of some Israeli F-15s flying in the UK. Looks like they all had the PW engines. Do you know what an average AA loadout would've been for the 90s or later era? I guess they were armed with Sparrows and Sidewinders in the 80s and some Pythons thrown in there to. Maybe Python 3s in the 80s and Python 4 in the 90s but not sure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bozothenutter Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 AFAIK only the EX is getting GE engines Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor.777 Posted September 15, 2023 Author Share Posted September 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Bozothenutter said: AFAIK only the EX is getting GE engines What is AFAIK ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Israeli F-15's do not have the GE engine, only PW. The GE engine was only introduced on the F-15 with the sale to South Korea and Singapore, later also delivered to other clients but not Israel.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Raptor.777 said: What is AFAIK ? And For All I Know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 IANAL but AFAIK means As Far As I Know 😊 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Double meaning 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor.777 Posted September 15, 2023 Author Share Posted September 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Niels said: Israeli F-15's do not have the GE engine, only PW. The GE engine was only introduced on the F-15 with the sale to South Korea and Singapore, later also delivered to other clients but not Israel.. The F-15I look like they have the GE engines. Not the same nozzles as the rest of their F-15Ds. Looks like the turkey feather, to where the PW engines have the actuating mechanisms and rods that open the and close the engine nozzles. I don't know, maybe I am wrong and they are all PW engines Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, Raptor.777 said: The F-15I look like they have the GE engines. Not the same nozzles as the rest of their F-15Ds. Looks like the turkey feather, to where the PW engines have the actuating mechanisms and rods that open the and close the engine nozzles. I don't know, maybe I am wrong and they are all PW engines They are absolutely all P&W engines. It’s a different version than on the Eagles, but still P&W. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor.777 Posted September 15, 2023 Author Share Posted September 15, 2023 53 minutes ago, Dave Williams said: They are absolutely all P&W engines. It’s a different version than on the Eagles, but still P&W. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 What Dave said 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 P & W F100: GE F110: HTH -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gvit Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 only P&W !!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bozothenutter Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) Maybe what you saw was one fitted with 'turkey feathers? Rare these days, but that's the only thing that makes them look similar. Deliberately picked this pic, as the orange makes sure it is an 15A. Edited September 18, 2023 by Bozothenutter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sodasorb Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Looks like a F-15QA to me...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bozothenutter Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sodasorb said: Looks like a F-15QA to me...... Aaarrrrrgggghhhhhh......that's what I get for not being current! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor.777 Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bozothenutter said: Maybe what you saw was one fitted with 'turkey feathers? Rare these days, but that's the only thing that makes them look similar. Deliberately picked this pic, as the orange makes sure it is an 15A. So those are PW engines then? Maybe older versions? Edited September 18, 2023 by Raptor.777 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bozothenutter said: Maybe what you saw was one fitted with 'turkey feathers? Rare these days, but that's the only thing that makes them look similar. Deliberately picked this pic, as the orange makes sure it is an 15A. Those look like GE engines. The turkey feathers are different than the P&W ones. Also, definitely not an A model. Edited September 18, 2023 by Dave Williams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 It is - likely one of the Saudi F-15SA's. We don't need more verification, Israel do not use the GE engine on their F-15's. Fullstop! 😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor.777 Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, Niels said: It is - likely one of the Saudi F-15SA's. We don't need more verification, Israel do not use the GE engine on their F-15's. Fullstop! 😉 Just the Saudi's and south koreans then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 One way to tell them apart is to count the “feathers”, GE F-110 engines have 12, PW F-100 engines have 15. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor.777 Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, habu2 said: One way to tell them apart is to count the “feathers”, GE F-110 engines have 12, PW F-100 engines have 15. Good info. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Qatar F-15QA and USAF F-15EX also are GE powered ... -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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